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 He said that the re-classification of the Era lands on the final Cumberland County Plan, from rural area to reserve area parkland greatly strengthened the deputation's case for resumption. The Plan supported the deputation in its very desperate petition for resumption and reservation of the land before a township could arise. He had spoken to one of the executors of Portion No 1 - a friend of his - to name a reasonable sum acceptable as compensation for resumption. He, however, did not wish to commit the executors. Mr. Dunphy thought that £1,900 would cover the cost. He said that the re-classification of the Era lands on the final Cumberland County Plan, from rural area to reserve area parkland greatly strengthened the deputation's case for resumption. The Plan supported the deputation in its very desperate petition for resumption and reservation of the land before a township could arise. He had spoken to one of the executors of Portion No 1 - a friend of his - to name a reasonable sum acceptable as compensation for resumption. He, however, did not wish to commit the executors. Mr. Dunphy thought that £1,900 would cover the cost.
  
-No.2 Speaker: MR. T. MOPPETT (S.B.W.) supported the case as outlined He made particular reference to Bushwalker ownership of Portion 7 (40 acres): pointed out intention was to hold it as a primitive area sanctuary and to improve it by re-afforestation, already begun. Any responsible member of the public could use It; anyone could camp there, provided he did no damage. No houses would be built. No +No.2 Speaker: MR. T. MOPPETT (S.B.W.) supported the case as outlinedHe made particular reference to Bushwalker ownership of Portion 7 (40 acres): pointed out intention was to hold it as a primitive area sanctuary and to improve it by re-afforestation, already begun. Any responsible member of the public could use it; anyone could camp there, provided he did no damage. No houses would be built. No road would cross it; therefore it protected Portion 1 to this extent. 
-road would cross it; therefore it protected Portion 1 to this extent. + 
-No.3 Speaker: MR. R. COMPAGNONI (N.S.W. Federation of Bushwalking Clubs) said he spoke for twenty-six affiliated clubs that gave unqualified support to the objects of the deputation. The Federation and affiliations desired the whole of the alienated portions to be resumed and reserved, and added to Garawarra park if possible, failing this to have Portion 1 added to the Park in ordel, to overcome the inconveniences of awkward boundary, defective access, and a lot of private shacks right in Burning Palms itself. It was most desirable to have this Era land, situated as it was between adjacent parklands, dealt with as public parkland, not allowed to become a• township. He particularly stressed the fact that Portion I extended southward into Burning Palms and, with its shacks, was an acute problem for the park trustees. The unique, beautiful Burning Palms amphitheatre, set back into the high range, should be preserved as a geographical entity, free of alienated land. +No.3 Speaker: MR. R. COMPAGNONI (N.S.W. Federation of Bushwalking Clubs) said he spoke for twenty-six affiliated clubs that gave unqualified support to the objects of the deputation. The Federation and affiliations desired the whole of the alienated portions to be resumed and reserved, and added to Garawarra park if possible, failing this to have Portion 1 added to the Park in order to overcome the inconveniences of awkward boundary, defective access, and a lot of private shacks right in Burning Palms itself. It was most desirable to have this Era land, situated as it was between adjacent parklands, dealt with as public parkland, not allowed to become a township. He particularly stressed the fact that Portion I extended southward into Burning Palms and, with its shacks, was an acute problem for the park trustees. The unique, beautiful Burning Palms amphitheatre, set back into the high range, should be preserved as a geographical entity, free of alienated land. 
-Bushwalkers quite rightly wished to keep away from motoring roads and motorists/ resorts. They wished to retain use of the beaches at Era and Burning Palms, probably the only beaches in County of Cumberland to remain in a natural condition. They wanted them to remain so for pc,5eterity. This was not a selfish attitude; it would be in the public interest to have them preserved in their natural state. + 
-404 P +Bushwalkers quite rightly wished to keep away from motoring roads and motorists/ resorts. They wished to retain use of the beaches at Era and Burning Palms, probably the only beaches in County of Cumberland to remain in a natural condition. They wanted them to remain so for eternity. This was not a selfish attitude; it would be in the public interest to have them preserved in their natural state. 
-At resent the alienated lands surrounded by public parkland was an incongruity: from a regional planning point of view it did + 
-o not make sense. A township was in the making there, now. It shouldbe halted. The County Plan re-classification of this area supported the deputation's request for resumption. +At present the alienated lands surrounded by public parkland was an incongruity: from a regional planning point of view it did not make sense. A township was in the making there, now. It should be halted. The County Plan re-classification of this area supported the deputation's request for resumption. 
-No.4 Speaker: MR. W.H. GUILDS (Parks and Playgrounds Movement) said he had never visited the locality but he was present to say that the Parks ard Playgrounds Movement was convinced of the necessities of the case, ard unreservedly supported it as outlined by the convenor. The Movement hoped the resumption would be made and the land be added to Garawarra Park. + 
-No.5 Speaker: MR. GORDON YOUNG (Director, National Fitness Council) said that all the history cf the Era lands ard atterpts to develop it by private enterprise had not been told by Mr. Dunphy; the N.F. Council had been concerned in preventing other attempts to use the land. The N.F. Council had done a tremendous amount of work towards its resumption througA the Departments of Lard and Education with the result that the regired amount was forthcoming. But now it seemed that all that work was to go for nothing. He said that the Council had been urged to interest the Minister for Education in the matter. It had received the support of the Federation and affiliated clubE3 in favour of the N.F.C. action in the platter, and he emphasised the Federation's wholehearted support for National Fitness Council control of the whole of the 350 acres for National Fitness purposes (at this juncture he read the letter). If the deputation now did not want it that way, well and good: he could not alter that outlook. He wished to avoid repercussions between the Departments and, with this end in view, he personally had decided to keep out of Donnybrook Which might occur for control of the area. Ho said :tt appeared that everyone had overlooked the ease for the shack-owner at the beaches and possible disturbance of the surf life-saving club at Era Beach. (Note: No05 place origirally was pro7ided for Mr. Young or his representative, to state the Councils case, if er.) desired.) +No.4 Speaker: MR. W.H. GUILDS (Parks and Playgrounds Movement) said he had never visited the locality but he was present to say that the Parks ard Playgrounds Movement was convinced of the necessities of the case, and unreservedly supported it as outlined by the convenor. The Movement hoped the resumption would be made and the land be added to Garawarra Park. 
-No.5a Speaker: MISS Y. BYLES (Recreation Areas Committee of National Fitness Council) stated that a tremendous amount of work had been done'towards possible resumption of thisland. This work had been going on for years. When the clubs' efforts appeared to flag the National Fitness Council had taken up the matter, throuF;the Recreation Areas Committee, and had pushed on with it It seemed a pity that N.F.C. action should be interrupted just when the funds + 
-were to hand. The late Mr. Barry, Deputy Surveyor-General, had interested himself through the Joint Committee; he was convinced the land would be resumed eventually. She said it must be resumed; could not an undertaking be given that it will be resumed? (Note: The deputation plainly indicated that control of the area by the trustees of National l'itness council for National Fitness purposes was not desired. Agai n: the deputation had no intention of asking for an undertaking to be given. The case was stated, the parties now are prepared to await any reasonable time for the Minister's decision Obviously it is a complicated matter and must be scrutinised thoroughly by the Department's officers. +No.5 Speaker: MR. GORDON YOUNG (Director, National Fitness Council) said that all the history of the Era lands and attempts to develop it by private enterprise had not been told by Mr. Dunphy; the N.F. Council had been concerned in preventing other attempts to use the land. The N.F. Council had done a tremendous amount of work towards its resumption through the Departments of Land and Education with the result that the required amount was forthcoming. But now it seemed that all that work was to go for nothing. He said that the Council had been urged to interest the Minister for Education in the matter. It had received the support of the Federation and affiliated clubs in favour of the N.F.C. action in the matter, and he emphasised the Federation's wholehearted support for National Fitness Council control of the whole of the 350 acres for National Fitness purposes (at this juncture he read the letter). If the deputation now did not want it that way, well and good: he could not alter that outlook. He wished to avoid repercussions between the Departments and, with this end in view, he personally had decided to keep out of Donnybrook which might occur for control of the area. Ho said it appeared that everyone had overlooked the lease for the shack-owner at the beaches and possible disturbance of the surf life-saving club at Era Beach. (Note: No 5 place originally was provided for Mr. Young or his representative, to state the Councils case, if ever desired.) 
-No. Speaker: MR. T. HERBERT (Garawarra Park Trust) spoke on + 
-0 behalf of Yr. Theo. Atkinson (co-trustee) and himself in particular, and for the Trust on general principles. Two new trustees had justbeen appointed; this matter had not been discussed, as no meeting had been held lately. He thought the whole of the land should be resumed, ard that it would be a good thing if it were added to Garawarra Park, in the interests of that section of the public whioh 'appreciated a primitive area and avoided motor roads and mooristst resorts. The lack of proper access into Bunning Palms without necessity of trespassing on private land was very awkward for visitors and trustees. The penetration of Portion 1 into Burning Palms and its being covered with shacks was fundamentally wrong and deprived appreciative visitors of the true beauty and peacefulness +No.5a Speaker: MISS M. BYLES (Recreation Areas Committee of National Fitness Council) stated that a tremendous amount of work had been done towards possible resumption of this land. This work had been going on for years. When the clubs' efforts appeared to flag the National Fitness Council had taken up the matter, through the Recreation Areas Committee, and had pushed on with itIt seemed a pity that N.F.C. action should be interrupted just when the funds were to hand. The late Mr. Barry, Deputy Surveyor-General, had interested himself through the Joint Committee; he was convinced the land would be resumed eventually. She said it must be resumed; could not an undertaking be given that it will be resumed? (Note: The deputation plainly indicated that control of the area by the trustees of National Fitness council for National Fitness purposes was not desired. Again the deputation had no intention of asking for an undertaking to be given. The case was stated, the parties now are prepared to await any reasonable time for the Minister's decisionObviously it is a complicated matter and must be scrutinised thoroughly by the Department's officers. 
-of the place. He agreed with the convenor that, at the Tcorste the minimum proposal (resumption of Portion 1 for attachment to Garawarra Park) should be granted; also that Portion 7 should be allowed to remain in possession of the Sydney Bash Walkers for awhile for a stipulated use and to extend the effectiveness of Portion 1. + 
-No.7 Speaker: MISS THISTLE HARRIS (Wild Life Preserva-ion Society of Australia) said that her Society favoured resumption of the whole of the alienated portions, and their reservation for preservation of scenery, fauna and flora, and for public recreation. The Society wished the whole to be attached to Garawarra Park in order to extend the primibive area chJa:racteristics. In particular he ieentioned the necessity for careful preservation of certain forms of coast bx.sh trees and other plants now in danger of t-eing e.ictermThaued, Preservation for future study was only possible in,a properly controlled primitive area park where obliterating agencies could be eliminated. She had made a close study of the plants of the locality and could sqpply the Department with a list of them, if ?aqued. She agreed with the general opinion of the deputation. (Note: Miss Harris handed to Mr. Jones three booklets containing articles on Garawarra lands.) +No.Speaker: MR. T. HERBERT (Garawarra Park Trust) spoke on behalf of Mr. Theo. Atkinson (co-trustee) and himself in particular, and for the Trust on general principles. Two new trustees had just been appointed; this matter had not been discussed, as no meeting had been held lately. He thought the whole of the land should be resumed, and that it would be a good thing if it were added to Garawarra Park, in the interests of that section of the public which appreciated a primitive area and avoided motor roads and motorists resorts. The lack of proper access into Burning Palms without necessity of trespassing on private land was very awkward for visitors and trustees. The penetration of Portion 1 into Burning Palms and its being covered with shacks was fundamentally wrong and deprived appreciative visitors of the true beauty and peacefulness of the place. He agreed with the convenor that, at the worst the minimum proposal (resumption of Portion 1 for attachment to Garawarra Park) should be granted; also that Portion 7 should be allowed to remain in possession of the Sydney Bush Walkers for awhile for a stipulated use and to extend the effectiveness of Portion 1. 
-MrHARPHAN (Assistant 'Under Secretary, and a t..use cf both The National Park and Garawarra Park Trusts) asked MR, DnPHT: + 
-1-Issuming you obtained control af the land as a park, what would +No.7 Speaker: MISS THISTLE HARRIS (Wild Life Preservation Society of Australia) said that her Society favoured resumption of the whole of the alienated portions, and their reservation for preservation of scenery, fauna and flora, and for public recreation. The Society wished the whole to be attached to Garawarra Park in order to extend the primitive area characteristics. In particular she mentioned the necessity for careful preservation of certain forms of coast bush trees and other plants now in danger of being  exterminated, Preservation for future study was only possible in a properly controlled primitive area park where obliterating agencies could be eliminated. She had made a close study of the plants of the locality and could supply the Department with a list of them, if asked. She agreed with the general opinion of the deputation. (Note: Miss Harris handed to Mr. Jones three booklets containing articles on Garawarra lands.) 
-you do about the shack-owners?He replied that the question hardly was his to answer but would concern the trustees. The situation appeared to rest thus: if the land rmained in private hands and was measured and subdivided for residential purposes the shacks, being substandard dwellings, would come under Local Government Ordinance No.70 (or, perhaps, No.71) and be condemned. Their occupiers might or might not be given preference in the sale ef Tabdivisional lots. If the land were resumed and placed under Garawarra Park trustees he ventured the opinion it was likely the trustees would give a 5 to 10 years tenure to the shack-owners before obliterating the shacks. His opinion was based on the fact that a small number were allowed to remain in Garawarra Park. + 
-MR. COMPAGNONI added that the shacks were only week-enders; +Mr HARPHAN (Assistant Under Secretary, and a trustee of both The National Park and Garawarra Park Trusts) asked MR, Dunphy  Assuming you obtained control of the land as a park, what would you do about the shack-owners? He replied that the question hardly was his to answer but would concern the trustees. The situation appeared to rest thus: if the land remained in private hands and was measured and subdivided for residential purposes the shacks, being substandard dwellings, would come under Local Government Ordinance No.70 (or, perhaps, No.71) and be condemned. Their occupiers might or might not be given preference in the sale of subdivisional lots. If the land were resumed and placed under Garawarra Park trustees he ventured the opinion it was likely the trustees would give a 5 to 10 years tenure to the shack-owners before obliterating the shacks. His opinion was based on the fact that a small number were allowed to remain in Garawarra Park. 
-that actually they usurped land which wap used by vf.sitors originally. He could not see that any hardship would be involved if their + 
-occupancy were terminated. However, to satisfy the occupiers, a reasonable term of tenure could be granted, no .doubt. +MR. COMPAGNONI added that the shacks were only week-enders; that actually they usurped land which was used by visitors originally. He could not see that any hardship would be involved if their occupancy were terminated. However, to satisfy the occupiers, a reasonable term of tenure could be granted, no doubt. 
-MR. HERBERT said that seven huts were allowed to stand at Burning Palms, the residue of a greater number built by squatters. Some occupiers acted as honorary rangers. The Park Ranger lived in one. He could not iay authoritatively, but thought that a term of - Tease could be granted to obviate any hardship which might arise. + 
-In his concluding remarks R. DUNPHY said that MR. I-015NG'mentfon of possible hardship to members of Era Surf Life-saving Club, in event of resumption, was hardly correct, beea•lse no matter, how the land would be controlled, if resumed, the surf club would be a necessity and would continue to operate. +MR. HERBERT said that seven huts were allowed to stand at Burning Palms, the residue of a greater number built by squatters. Some occupiers acted as honorary rangers. The Park Ranger lived in one. He could not say authoritatively, but thought that a term of lease could be granted to obviate any hardship which might arise. 
-CONCLUSION. As Mr. Jones had another appointment to keep he signified that the matter should be concludedTherefore several other speakers in reserve were not needed. The cae had been put very well and all were satisfied. +  
-7 In his reply to the deputation the Under Secretary said he And other officers had visited Garawarra recently, and had viewed the land in question. After having perused the files carefully, having viewed the locality, and having listened to the opinions of the members of the large deputation, he believed the-re was a real need for its resum-ction for parkland. He and Mro Ifthan Toe2c1 +In his concluding remarks M. DUNPHY said that MR. YOUNG'mention of possible hardship to members of Era Surf Life-saving Club, in event of resumption, was hardly correct, because no matter, how the land would be controlled, if resumed, the surf club would be a necessity and would continue to operate. 
-report on the matter to the Minister and convey tha"o f:lere appeared to be a general agreement about resumption He understood the deputation wished Portion 1 to be resumed if the rest could not be resumed. As to who should control the land he could not say. There were the Garawarra Park trustees, the National Park Trustees, and National Fitness Council trustees to be c;onsidered, This would be a matter for debate within the Department. The Minb2ter for Lands would male the decision. The National Parks Comm:T.ttee had been requested to make a report on the matter. He could gf.ve no promises; decisions lay with the Minister + 
-000 *00.•00 +**CONCLUSION**. As Mr. Jones had another appointment to keep he signified that the matter should be concludedTherefore several other speakers in reserve were not needed. The case had been put very well and all were satisfied. 
-(Note: It appears that the action of this deputation was exactly what was needed to bring this contentious and desperately urgent matter to a head. The strong community opinion and request of the deputation fixed the interest of the Department of Lands, not only +  
-on to the rising settlement at Garawarra, but also on to the Bundeena township menace to The National Park. The main consideration is to have the settlement at Era halted and the lard reserved for the public as a primitive area. Control of it is another matter. The deputation voiced its very unanimous opinion and request. Our conservative conscience is now clear.) +In his reply to the deputationthe Under Secretary said he and other officers had visited Garawarra recently, and had viewed the land in question. After having perused the files carefully, having viewed the locality, and having listened to the opinions of the members of the large deputation, he believed there was a real need for its resumption for parkland. He and Mr Harphan would report on the matter to the Minister and convey that opinion. There appeared to be a general agreement about resumptionHe understood the deputation wished Portion 1 to be resumed if the rest could not be resumed. As to who should control the land he could not say. There were the Garawarra Park trustees, the National Park Trustees, and National Fitness Council trustees to be considered, This would be a matter for debate within the Department. The Minister for Lands would make the decision. The National Parks Committee had been requested to make a report on the matter. He could give no promises; decisions lay with the Minister. 
-SOCIAL NOTES FuR OCTOBE.111 lAarie-fiayner who recently spent a walking + 
-holiday in N.Z. will entertain us on 21st Oct. with a lecture, "This is New Zealand." Laurie's talk will be a great help to those planning similar trips. Another dance on the 28th0 should gladden the hearts of those who like to "strutt their stuff." Dont forget the Xmas party on Wed. 14th Dec at C.U.S,A., third floor - Edna Stretton. +(Note: It appears that the action of this deputation was exactly what was needed to bring this contentious and desperately urgent matter to a head. The strong community opinion and request of the deputation fixed the interest of the Department of Lands, not only on to the rising settlement at Garawarra, but also on to the Bundeena township menace to The National Park. The main consideration is to have the settlement at Era halted and the land reserved for the public as a primitive area. Control of it is another matter. The deputation voiced its very unanimous opinion and request. Our conservative conscience is now clear.) 
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 +====== Social Notes for October ====== 
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 +Laurie Rayner who recently spent a walking holiday in N.Z. will entertain us on 21st Oct. with a lecture, "This is New Zealand." Laurie's talk will be a great help to those planning similar trips.  
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 +Another dance on the 28th should gladden the hearts of those who like to "strutt their stuff." Dont forget the Xmas party on Wed. 14th Dec at C.U.S,A., third floor - Edna Stretton. 
  
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 **BUSHCRAFT ASSOCIATION.** After a delay of four or five months, allegedly occasioned by the lighting restrictions, the suspended Association replied to the Federation's ultimatum that the Association subscribe to the Constitution and Policy to consider resigning. The reply was indirect, stating that the findings of the recent S,B.W, three-man delegation to the Associations Waterfall camp would answer the Federation's query. As the S.B,W, had not received the report, the matter remained open and the position obscure. The River Canoe Club then moved that the suspension be lifted. This was bitterly opposed by the Coast and Mountain Walkers who, in asking the B.C.A. delegate if this Association ever used green bush material, received a non-committal reply. The C.M.W. thereupon produced recently hewn sticks bound with green vine declared in a sworn declaration to have been obtained from the Association's camp. The delegate stoutly denied his Association's responsibility, avowing someone had visited the campsite and erected a bush table (similar to Boy Scout's version). The six or seven trees cut down at the campsite "were probably cut down by the National Park Trust". The Rover Ramblers supported the B.C.A. Someone else expressed the somewhat forlorn hope that by retaining the Bushcrafters in the Federation they might come around to our comprehension of conservation. The S.B.W. said it was useless endeavourdng to educate youth to appreciate the bush by teaching it various ways of destroying it, that the method was retrograde. The Bush Club stressed the soil erosion aspect of destruction of green material and trees. A wearying discussion dragged on for two hours over the same stony road as has been traversed many times in the last two years or so, and the motion was finally put by the 'gag' and carried 17 to 12, so that we are now back in precisely the same position as last March when our delegates were instructed by the Annual General Meeting to call for the Bushcraft Association's expulsion from the Federation because of disregard for our understanding of the Federations Constitution and Policy. **BUSHCRAFT ASSOCIATION.** After a delay of four or five months, allegedly occasioned by the lighting restrictions, the suspended Association replied to the Federation's ultimatum that the Association subscribe to the Constitution and Policy to consider resigning. The reply was indirect, stating that the findings of the recent S,B.W, three-man delegation to the Associations Waterfall camp would answer the Federation's query. As the S.B,W, had not received the report, the matter remained open and the position obscure. The River Canoe Club then moved that the suspension be lifted. This was bitterly opposed by the Coast and Mountain Walkers who, in asking the B.C.A. delegate if this Association ever used green bush material, received a non-committal reply. The C.M.W. thereupon produced recently hewn sticks bound with green vine declared in a sworn declaration to have been obtained from the Association's camp. The delegate stoutly denied his Association's responsibility, avowing someone had visited the campsite and erected a bush table (similar to Boy Scout's version). The six or seven trees cut down at the campsite "were probably cut down by the National Park Trust". The Rover Ramblers supported the B.C.A. Someone else expressed the somewhat forlorn hope that by retaining the Bushcrafters in the Federation they might come around to our comprehension of conservation. The S.B.W. said it was useless endeavourdng to educate youth to appreciate the bush by teaching it various ways of destroying it, that the method was retrograde. The Bush Club stressed the soil erosion aspect of destruction of green material and trees. A wearying discussion dragged on for two hours over the same stony road as has been traversed many times in the last two years or so, and the motion was finally put by the 'gag' and carried 17 to 12, so that we are now back in precisely the same position as last March when our delegates were instructed by the Annual General Meeting to call for the Bushcraft Association's expulsion from the Federation because of disregard for our understanding of the Federations Constitution and Policy.
  
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 The disease of erosion has been allowed to eat deeply into the flesh of this country. The Soil Conservation Service of New South Wales has been called in as physician and surgeon, but we have been called in after the desease has become well established. We are now required to cure. To prevent would have been wiser, more effective and much more economical. As well as curing the current erosion on those lands already affected, we are also occupied in preventing it. The disease of erosion has been allowed to eat deeply into the flesh of this country. The Soil Conservation Service of New South Wales has been called in as physician and surgeon, but we have been called in after the desease has become well established. We are now required to cure. To prevent would have been wiser, more effective and much more economical. As well as curing the current erosion on those lands already affected, we are also occupied in preventing it.
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