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-THE SYDNEY BUSHWALKER is a monthly  +**THE SYDNEY BUSHWALKER** is a monthly  bulletin of matters of interest to The Sydney Bush Walkers Inc; PO Box 431 Milsons Point, 1565. 
-bulletin of matters of interest to The Sydney  +
-Bush Walkers Inc; PO Box 431 MilSons Point,  +
-1565. TO advertise in this magazine, please  +
-contact the BusineSs Manager. +
  
 +To advertise in this magazine, please contact the Business Manager. 
  
-Editor: Ray .Hookway  +|**Editor**| Ray Hookway  Telephone 9411 1873| 
-Telephone 9411 1873+|**Business Manager**| Elizabeth Miller,1 The Babette, Castlecrag, 2068 Telephone 9958 7838 | 
 +|**Production Manager**| Frances Holland | 
 +|**Printers**| Kenn Clacher, Barrie Murdoch, Margaret Niven, Les Powell, Tom Wenman |
  
-Business Manager: Elizabeth Miller. 
-1 The Babette, Castlecrag, 2068 
-Telephone '9958.7838  
  
-Production Manager: Frances Holland  +THE SYDNEY BUSH WALKERS INCORPORATED was founded in 1927. Club meetings are held every Wednesday evening at 8 pm at Kirribilli Neighbourhood Centre, 16 Fitzroy Street, Kirribilli (near Milsons Point Railway Station). Visitors and prospective members are welcome any Wednesday.
-Printers: Kenn Clacher, Barrie Murdoch, +
-Margaret Niven, Les Powell, Tom Wenman,+
  
 +|**President** | Eddy Giacomel |
 +|**Vice-President** | Tony Holgate |
 +|**Public Officer**| Fran Holland |
 +|**Treasurer**| Edith Baker |
 +|**Secretary**| Rosemary MacDougal |
 +|**Walks Secretary**| Bill Capon |
 +|**Social Secretary**| Elwyn Morris |
 +|**Membership Secretary**| Barry Wallace |
 +|**New Members Secretary**| Frank Grennan |
 +|**Conservation Secretary**| Bill Holland |
 +|**Magazine Editor**| Ray Hookway |
 +|**Committee Members**| Anthony Crichton & Spiro Hajinakitas  |
 +|**Delegates to Confederation**| Jim Callaway & Wilf Hilder |
  
-THE SYDNEY BUSH WALKERS +**JULY 1999  Issue No. 776** 
-INCORPORATED was founded in 1927.: Club +
-meetings are held every Wednesday evening at  +
-8 pm at, Kirribilli Neighbourhood Centre, . 16  +
-Fitzroy Street, Kirribilli (near Milsons Point  +
-Railway Station). Visitors and prospective  +
-members are welcome any Wednesday.+
  
  
-President Eddy Giacomel  
-Vice-President Tony Holgate  
-Public Officer: Fran Holland 
  
-Treasurer: Edith Baker  +|2. |The May General Meeting reported by Barry: Wallace | 
-Secretary: Rosemary MacDoUgal +|4. |The SBW Concert. Review reported by Elwyn Morris | 
-Walks Secretary: Bill Capon +|4. |New Coolana Motions for The August Meeting by Geoff Dowsett | 
-Social Secretary Elwyn Morris+|5. |The Best Way to Burn Bridges by Barbara Bruce | 
 +|6. |The Great Illawarra Escarpment Walk by Roger Treagus | 
 +|9. |A Traditional (Wet) Easter In The Apsley Wilderness by Paul McCann | 
 +|11. |Climbing Mt, Kilimanjaro by Jan Szarek (conclusion) | 
 +|13. |The Essential SBW Dictionary by Andrew Vilder | 
 +|14. |Bushwalkers Beware The Fundis,letter by Peter Stitt & Garth Coulter |
  
-Membership Secretary: Barry Wallace  +ADVERTISERS\\ 
-New Members Secretary: Frank Grennan  +Alpsport front cover\\ 
-Conservation Secretary: Bill Holland  +Eastwood Camping Centre7\\ 
-Magazine Editor: Ray Hookway  +Ecotrek : 9\\ 
-Committee Members: +Bogong Jack Adventures\\ 
-Anthony Crichton & Spiro Hajinakitas -  +Outland 11\\ 
-Delegates to Confederation: +Paddy Pallin back cover\\ 
-Jim Callaway & Wilf Hilder+U Relax 4 We'll Drive12\\ 
 +Willis's Walkabouts 3\\
  
-JULY 1999  
  
 +====== The May General Meeting ======
 + reported by Barry Wallace
  
-Issue No. 776  +The meeting began a little before 20.15, when your scribe arrived. Apologies had already come and gone and new members Matthew Howle, Pamela Irving and Michelle Mandler had already been called to be welcomed in the usual way. The minutes of both the February and April general meeting were read and received as true and correct with no matters arising. The only correspondence, apart from the usual commercial entreaties, was a questionnaire on septic tanks from Nowra council, relating to Coolana no doubt.
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-4. The SBW Concert. Review  +
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-The August Meeting  +
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-5. The Best Way to Burn  +
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-6. The Great Illawarra  +
-Escarpment Walk  +
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-by Roger Treagus  +
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-9. A Traditional(Wet) Easter  +
-In The Apsley Wilderness  +
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-11. Climbing Mt, Kilimanjaro  +
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-13. The Essential SBW  +
-Dictionary  +
-by Andrew wilder  +
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-14. Bushwalkers Beware The  +
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-Rmdis  +
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-Garth Coulter  +
-ADVERTISERS +
-Alpsport front cover +
-Eastwood Camping Centre7 +
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-Ecotrek : 9 +
-Bogong Jack Adventures +
-Outland 11 +
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-Paddy Pallin back cover +
-U Relax 4 We'll Drive12 +
-Willis's Walkabouts 3 +
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-The May General Meeting. +
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-The meeting began a little before 2015, when your scribe arrived. Apologies had already come and gone and new members Matthew Howle, Pamela Irving and Michelle Mandler had already been called to be welcomed in the usual way. The minutes of both the February and April general meeting were read and received as true and correct, with no matters arising. The only correspondence, apart from the usual commercial entreaties, was a questionnaire on septic tanks from Nowra council, relating to Coolana no doubt.+
  
 The treasurer reported that we began with a balance of $15,525, received income of $1,503, and disbursed $1,332. The treasurer reported that we began with a balance of $15,525, received income of $1,503, and disbursed $1,332.
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 Morrie Ward led a party of 7 on his Barrington Tops walk over the weekend of 16, 17, 18 April. Conditions were free of rain but high water in the streams caused a retreat to the near impenetrable scrub along the banks. Meanwhile, having press-ganged various prospectives at the Coolana Training Weekend into carrying an apparent miscellany of items down the hill to the river flats, Bill Holland and Patrick James then proceeded, before their astonished gaze, to assemble a stout wooden table from the items. It is reported to be useful for the spreading of maps. Last heard from, they were working out a roster of who was to carry the item on walks involving difficult navigation. There was no mention of an encore.  Morrie Ward led a party of 7 on his Barrington Tops walk over the weekend of 16, 17, 18 April. Conditions were free of rain but high water in the streams caused a retreat to the near impenetrable scrub along the banks. Meanwhile, having press-ganged various prospectives at the Coolana Training Weekend into carrying an apparent miscellany of items down the hill to the river flats, Bill Holland and Patrick James then proceeded, before their astonished gaze, to assemble a stout wooden table from the items. It is reported to be useful for the spreading of maps. Last heard from, they were working out a roster of who was to carry the item on walks involving difficult navigation. There was no mention of an encore. 
  
- Errol Sheedy had the party of 16 on his Waterfall to Heathcote Sunday walk enjoying a spot of swimming on a day of glorious weather. Craig Austin reported a full day for the 8 starters on his Sunday walk in the Wollemi.+Errol Sheedy had the party of 16 on his Waterfall to Heathcote Sunday walk enjoying a spot of swimming on a day of glorious weather. Craig Austin reported a full day for the 8 starters on his Sunday walk in the Wollemi.
  
 Ian Rannard’s mid week walk attracted a party of 7 on a perfect day. Ian Rannard’s mid week walk attracted a party of 7 on a perfect day.
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 Wilf Hilder led the mid week walk on the Thursday from Rockdale Station to Tempe Station with a cast of 14. Wilf Hilder led the mid week walk on the Thursday from Rockdale Station to Tempe Station with a cast of 14.
  
-The following weekend, 7, 8, 9 May saw a total dearth of details for both programmed overnight walks, with Oliver Crawford’s Wollemi walk and Phil Newman’s walk out from Carlons Farm both drawing complete blanks. The day walks fared a little better with Tony Marshall canceling his Sunday car swap trip from Wentworth Falls to Katoomba and Nigel Weaver leading a party of 17 on a late start for his Cogra Bay to Wondabyne walk in fine conditions with good views along the way.+The following weekend, 7, 8, 9 May saw a total dearth of details for both programmed overnight walks, with Oliver Crawford’s Wollemi walk and Phil Newman’s walk out from Carlons Farm both drawing complete blanks. The day walks fared a little better with Tony Marshall cancelling his Sunday car swap trip from Wentworth Falls to Katoomba and Nigel Weaver leading a party of 17 on a late start for his Cogra Bay to Wondabyne walk in fine conditions with good views along the way.
  
 There were no details for Ian Rannard’s mid week walk out from Glenbrook on the Tuesday. All of which brought the walks reports for the month to a close. There were no details for Ian Rannard’s mid week walk out from Glenbrook on the Tuesday. All of which brought the walks reports for the month to a close.
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 There was no general business so announcements followed and the meeting closed at around 2057. There was no general business so announcements followed and the meeting closed at around 2057.
  
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 My humble apologies to Sheila Binns for misspelling her name in the June magazine, not once but twice. Sorry Sheila. Ed. My humble apologies to Sheila Binns for misspelling her name in the June magazine, not once but twice. Sorry Sheila. Ed.
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-BIRTHDAY PARTY REMINDER+
  
 Members are reminded of the 90th birthday celebration being held for Alex Colley at his home, 7 Terrigal Avenue, Turramurra on Sunday August 1st at 12 noon. Members are reminded of the 90th birthday celebration being held for Alex Colley at his home, 7 Terrigal Avenue, Turramurra on Sunday August 1st at 12 noon.
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 See the June magazine for full details. See the June magazine for full details.
  
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 +Another date to mark on your 1999 social calendar 
 The 1999 Bushwalkers Confederation Bush Dance will be held in the Petersham Town Hall on September 17th The 1999 Bushwalkers Confederation Bush Dance will be held in the Petersham Town Hall on September 17th
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- +====== SBW Concert Review ====== 
-SBW CONCERT REVIEW +  
- +by Elwyn Morris
- by Elwyn Morris+
  
 Those fortunate enough to be at this year’s SBW Concert on June 30th, including regular concert-goers Dot and Alex, were treated to an evening of first-rate entertainment. Arranged in cabaret-style, variety was the order of the day. Those fortunate enough to be at this year’s SBW Concert on June 30th, including regular concert-goers Dot and Alex, were treated to an evening of first-rate entertainment. Arranged in cabaret-style, variety was the order of the day.
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 The concert began with Owen Marks’ beautiful piano rendition of Dr Morris Green’s ‘Country Dance’ (l695-1755), followed by the appropriately titled, for the SBW, Handel’s ‘Where ‘ere you walk’,and ‘Return to Sorrento’ sung by George Carter accompanied by Owen on the piano. David Trinder then regaled us with a perfectly delivered, amusing Australian bush ballad, Patterson’s ‘A Bush Christening’. The concert began with Owen Marks’ beautiful piano rendition of Dr Morris Green’s ‘Country Dance’ (l695-1755), followed by the appropriately titled, for the SBW, Handel’s ‘Where ‘ere you walk’,and ‘Return to Sorrento’ sung by George Carter accompanied by Owen on the piano. David Trinder then regaled us with a perfectly delivered, amusing Australian bush ballad, Patterson’s ‘A Bush Christening’.
  
-Staying with the Australian bush theme, the talented John Poleson on the piano accordion, and his sons Mark on the Irish drum, and Chris on the guitar and harmonica, entertained us with Australian +Staying with the Australian bush theme, the talented John Poleson on the piano accordion, and his sons Mark on the Irish drum, and Chris on the guitar and harmonica, entertained us with Australian and American bluegrass ballads with John switching to the banjo.
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 The mood was then changed again completely by Owen and his sister Adrienne playing a lovely classical piece for four hands by Diabelli (Beethoven’s publisher). The mood was then changed again completely by Owen and his sister Adrienne playing a lovely classical piece for four hands by Diabelli (Beethoven’s publisher).
  
-A ten-minute interval was followed by Tom Wenman singing first the tuneful ‘Desert Song’ and then the haunting ‘September song’.  +A ten-minute interval was followed by Tom Wenman singing first the tuneful ‘Desert Song’ and then the haunting ‘September song’. David Trinder then amused us with Banjo Patterson’s ‘Mulga Bill’s Bicycle’ before Owen Marks returned to play three George Shearing favourites. Two Neapolitan songs were then sung by George Carter followed by one of the evening’s highlights, his dramatic rendition of ‘Vesti la giubba’ from Leoncallo’s ‘I Pagliacci’.
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-David Trinder then amused us with Banjo Patterson’s ‘Mulga Bill’s Bicycle’ before Owen Marks returned to play three George Shearing favourites. +
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-Two Neapolitan songs were then sung by George Carter followed by one of the evening’s highlights, his dramatic rendition of ‘Vesti la giubba’ from Leoncallo’s ‘I Pagliacci’.+
  
 The final item and the other highlight of the evening was John Poleson’s amusing and entertaining Magic Act. The final item and the other highlight of the evening was John Poleson’s amusing and entertaining Magic Act.
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 Our thanks to all of the artists who worked so hard to give us such a very entertaining evening. Our thanks to all of the artists who worked so hard to give us such a very entertaining evening.
  
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-New Coolana motions for August General Meeting+====== New Coolana motions for August General Meeting ====== 
  
 Geoff Dowsett has advised the General SBW Committee that he will put forward the following two motions for action at the August general meeting  Geoff Dowsett has advised the General SBW Committee that he will put forward the following two motions for action at the August general meeting 
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 (1) Meet quarterly while ever the club owns the property. (1) Meet quarterly while ever the club owns the property.
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 (2) Assess ideas and suggestions from members of the Coolana committee and the club generally in the current use and the future of the property. (2) Assess ideas and suggestions from members of the Coolana committee and the club generally in the current use and the future of the property.
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 (3) Update and inform the club on issues affecting the property and other club assets (3) Update and inform the club on issues affecting the property and other club assets
  
-It should be noted that a Coolana maintenance committee already exists. It was formed when the property was bought and its members are chosen by ballot at each annual general meeting.+It should be noted that a Coolana maintenance committee already exists. It was formed when the property was bought and its members are chosen by ballot at each annual general meeting. Refer to page 2 of the March magazine for the names of the present maintenance committee members. Ed. 
  
-Refer to page 2 of the March magazine for the names of the present maintenance committee members. Ed.  
  
 +====== The Best Way to Burn Bridges ======
    
 +by Barbara Bruce
  
-THE BEST WAY TO BURN BRIDGES +Five bridges in one day. A creative concept, I thought, I’d like to do it.
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-Five bridges in one day... A creative concept, I thought. I’d like to do it.+
  
 There were ten of us then on an autumn day that was clear, unseasonably warm, but with a refreshing breeze - Susan and Donna Anderson, Greg Bridge, Tracey Bullock, Lee Delbridge, Helen Jones, Chris Sonter, John Steinhoff and Hillary Williams - ready to “burn” five Sydney bridges during a walk led by Judy Jones and Coleen Hodder. There were ten of us then on an autumn day that was clear, unseasonably warm, but with a refreshing breeze - Susan and Donna Anderson, Greg Bridge, Tracey Bullock, Lee Delbridge, Helen Jones, Chris Sonter, John Steinhoff and Hillary Williams - ready to “burn” five Sydney bridges during a walk led by Judy Jones and Coleen Hodder.
  
-We started early from the Queen Victoria Building in Market Street, just as the first of the Saturday crowds was surfacing from the underground railway. In no time at all we were over the Pyrmont Bridge at Darling Harbour and stepping briskly through the modernised backblocks of Ultimo. I discovered Ultimo/Pyrmont is now a more effective amalgam of residence and industry, with here and there a park or open space giving a feeling of freedom. +We started early from the Queen Victoria Building in Market Street, just as the first of the Saturday crowds was surfacing from the underground railway. In no time at all we were over the Pyrmont Bridge at Darling Harbour and stepping briskly through the modernised back blocks of Ultimo. I discovered Ultimo/Pyrmont is now a more effective amalgam of residence and industry, with here and there a park or open space giving a feeling of freedom. 
  
 We emerged from Pyrmont near the Fish Markets and accessed the newly named Anzac Bridge. Joggers and cyclists arriving from the opposite direction made sure we did not take up more than our share of the lane! We emerged from Pyrmont near the Fish Markets and accessed the newly named Anzac Bridge. Joggers and cyclists arriving from the opposite direction made sure we did not take up more than our share of the lane!
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 Although some participants had dropped out, at 3.30pm the remainder were sipping liquid refreshments on the rooftop garden of the Glenmore Hotel in The Rocks, at which time the walk and the day received our unanimous stamp of approval. It had been a good leg stretch, too.  Although some participants had dropped out, at 3.30pm the remainder were sipping liquid refreshments on the rooftop garden of the Glenmore Hotel in The Rocks, at which time the walk and the day received our unanimous stamp of approval. It had been a good leg stretch, too. 
  
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-MARRAMARRA NATIONAL PARK WALK CANCELLATION 
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-Zol Bodlay advises that his programmed August 7th walk in MarraMarra has been cancelled due to his absence from Sydney 
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-HINCHINBROOK ISLAND WALK 
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- Phone: (02) 9476 6538+**MARRAMARRA National Park Walk Cancellation**  
  
- Fax: (02) 9476 6549+Zol Bodlay advises that his programmed August 7th walk in MarraMarra has been cancelled due to his absence from Sydney.
  
- Email: jamajo@acon.com.au +**Hinchinbrook Island Walk** 
 +Jacqui Calandra advises that there are still four places available on her Hinchinbrook Island walk which was notified too late forthe current program. 
 +Dates: September 1st- 6th 1999 
 +Phone: (02) 9476 6538 
 +Fax: (02) 9476 6549 
 +Email: jamajo@acon.com.au 
  
-Possible Sassafras/Nerriga Road Closure.+**Possible Sassafras/Nerriga Road Closure.**
  
 Members planning walks in the Sassafrass Nerriga area between late September and late October 1999 should check with the Nowra roads authorities. The company putting in the high pressure natural gas pipeline have applied to close the road at that time, to facilitate installation work. Members planning walks in the Sassafrass Nerriga area between late September and late October 1999 should check with the Nowra roads authorities. The company putting in the high pressure natural gas pipeline have applied to close the road at that time, to facilitate installation work.
  
-THE GREAT ILLAWARRA ESCARPMENT WALK 
  
-A PERSPECTIVE part 1+====== The Great Illawarra Escarpment Walk ======
  
- by Roger Treagus+A Perspective Part 1,  
 +by Roger Treagus
  
 You have seen the picture(s) now read the story. Wilf described this walk, illustrated with magic lantern slides, at the club rooms on June 23rd. Ed You have seen the picture(s) now read the story. Wilf described this walk, illustrated with magic lantern slides, at the club rooms on June 23rd. Ed
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 Wilf described the project as presenting more challenges than he ever encountered in any of his other serial walks. The main problem was in walking a concept rather than a tried and true track. Concepts are long on imagination and short on detail. It was Wilf's vision to provide the detail by walking the entire route and showing that a Great Illawarra Walk was practicable and could be linked to the Two Rivers Walk on to the Clyde. Wilf described the project as presenting more challenges than he ever encountered in any of his other serial walks. The main problem was in walking a concept rather than a tried and true track. Concepts are long on imagination and short on detail. It was Wilf's vision to provide the detail by walking the entire route and showing that a Great Illawarra Walk was practicable and could be linked to the Two Rivers Walk on to the Clyde.
  
-Credit also goes to Russell Evans from the Illawarra Bushwalking Club who provided the concept and a likely route on paper plus some ground reconnaissance that helped+Credit also goes to Russell Evans from the Illawarra Bushwalking Club who provided the concept and a likely route on paper plus some ground reconnaissance that helped.
  
-But like the early explorers looking for the inland sea, some of our ‘concept’ route was unwalked, a black blotch on the map signifying ‘unknown’. This meant that we frequently had to go searching for indistinct pads, missing passes and overgrown bridle tracks.+But like the early explorers looking for the inland sea, some of our ‘concept’ route was unwalked, a black blotch on the map signifying ‘unknown’. This meant that we frequently had to go searching for indistinct pads, missing passes and overgrown bridle tracks. Come to think of it, this is also what made it so interesting - you never knew for sure where you might end up for the night. The ‘concept’ had both the support of several local councils and of their overconfident cartographers. 
  
-Come to think of it, this is also what made it so interesting - you never knew for sure where you might end up for the night. The ‘concept’ had both the support of several local councils and of their overconfident cartographers.  +Wilf had walked the route in the 1960s and had uncovered a whole swag of passes through the cliff line between Coalcliff and Sublime Point. Some of these passes could not be found again on this walk. Missed passes was one of the themes for the walk as it turned out, but I get ahead of myself. 
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-Wilf had walked the route in the 1960's and had uncovered a whole swag of passes through the cliff line between Coalcliff and Sublime Point. Some of these passes could not be found again on this walk. Missed passes was one of the themes for the walk as it turned out, but I get ahead of myself. +
  
 To begin at the beginning, the Club Rooms, the traditional start of earlier multi stage walks, the Great North and Great South Walks. Stage 1 started with a brisk walk over the Bridge and a ferry ride to Watson’s Bay from the Quay. From thereon the strategy was simple, turn right and walk south along the coast or the adjacent escarpment and if an estuary intervened, jump! Fortunately the only ‘jump’ was at Botany Bay when the following stage started at Kurnell. The Bundeena to Otford Section was cancelled due to bad weather. It turned out that this was the only section not walked (if countless previous walks in this section don't count).  To begin at the beginning, the Club Rooms, the traditional start of earlier multi stage walks, the Great North and Great South Walks. Stage 1 started with a brisk walk over the Bridge and a ferry ride to Watson’s Bay from the Quay. From thereon the strategy was simple, turn right and walk south along the coast or the adjacent escarpment and if an estuary intervened, jump! Fortunately the only ‘jump’ was at Botany Bay when the following stage started at Kurnell. The Bundeena to Otford Section was cancelled due to bad weather. It turned out that this was the only section not walked (if countless previous walks in this section don't count). 
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 The first Stage south of the Royal started at Otford and followed the ridge of the Illawarra Escarpment initially via the Wodi Wodi track and the newly constructed Illawarra Escarpment Track. This was the first weekend stage and the Saturday night camp was simply spectacular, sited on the cliff edge above the red glow of the coke ovens of Coalcliff with a full moon coming out of a calm sea into a cloudless night - one of those magic moments bushwalkers always remember. Pity I missed it because I actually joined the walk for the first time on the next morning by catching up to the fast moving group at Sublime Point.  The first Stage south of the Royal started at Otford and followed the ridge of the Illawarra Escarpment initially via the Wodi Wodi track and the newly constructed Illawarra Escarpment Track. This was the first weekend stage and the Saturday night camp was simply spectacular, sited on the cliff edge above the red glow of the coke ovens of Coalcliff with a full moon coming out of a calm sea into a cloudless night - one of those magic moments bushwalkers always remember. Pity I missed it because I actually joined the walk for the first time on the next morning by catching up to the fast moving group at Sublime Point. 
  
-South of Bulli Tops the route led away from the roar of the highway to Rixons Pass, our access to Woonona Railway Station. The approach to Rixons was along a wonderful +South of Bulli Tops the route led away from the roar of the highway to Rixons Pass, our access to Woonona Railway Station. The approach to Rixons was along a wonderful old bridle track with its impressive stonemasonry designed to keep a grade, in difficult country, that a bullock train could negotiate. The day was capped off when we helped ourselves to a collection of old maps of the area that someone had thrown out for a council clean up.
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 The pattern of the Weekend Stages as far as Kiama was to catch the 6:44am Dapto train from Central, get off at the appropriate station for that stage, ascend the escarpment at the nearest pass and regain the coastal plain and the train line further south on the Sunday afternoon through another convenient pass. This arrangement had three problems. Firstly the further south we went the further the escarpment diverged from the train line which meant more complicated public transport arrangements to arrive at a reasonable start point for walking. Secondly, we were reliant on conveniently placed passes - some did not give up their secrets easily. The pattern of the Weekend Stages as far as Kiama was to catch the 6:44am Dapto train from Central, get off at the appropriate station for that stage, ascend the escarpment at the nearest pass and regain the coastal plain and the train line further south on the Sunday afternoon through another convenient pass. This arrangement had three problems. Firstly the further south we went the further the escarpment diverged from the train line which meant more complicated public transport arrangements to arrive at a reasonable start point for walking. Secondly, we were reliant on conveniently placed passes - some did not give up their secrets easily.
  
-Thirdly, is there any easy way of getting up at 4 on a Saturday morning to catch the red eye special from Central? The next Stage continued the progress south via Brokers Nose, Mt Kiera, O'Briens Gap, the Mt Kembla Ring Track and Kembla Grange  +Thirdly, is there any easy way of getting up at 4 on a Saturday morning to catch the red eye special from Central? The next Stage continued the progress south via Brokers Nose, Mt Kiera, O'Briens Gap, the Mt Kembla Ring Track and Kembla Grange station. This section held many surprises. Brokers Nose was one of those truly impressive lookouts that no one visits. At the old Mt Kiera Scout camp we walked through magnificent rainforest stands including some red cedar (Toona Australis) much sought after by loggers of old. The cedars were untouched, along with the rainforest barely 5km from the 'Gong, NSW's third biggest city. That says something for the nature of the terrain and for the moves to preserve the escarpment. 
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-station. This section held many surprises. Brokers Nose was one of those truly impressive lookouts that no one visits. At the old Mt Kiera Scout camp we walked through magnificent rainforest stands including some red cedar (Toona Australis) much sought after by loggers of old. The cedars were untouched, along with the rainforest barely 5km from the 'Gong, NSW's third biggest city. That says something for the nature of the terrain and +
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- for the moves to preserve the escarpment. +
  
-The Saturday of the next stage saw us climbing Mt Kembla from Unanderra Station, a bigger effort than it looked from the bottom. The party noted the significant contribution to the environment that the electricity people had provided, in these parts, in festooning the lookouts with high tension towers. Two hours walk led to Avon Gap where another engineering marvel, the Unanderra to Moss Vale railway line, passed through, - a very scenic line and frequented by the weekend Cockatoo steam train patronised by tourists and steam loco nuts.+The Saturday of the next stage saw us climbing Mt Kembla from Unanderra Station, a bigger effort than it looked from the bottom. The party noted the significant contribution to the environment that the electricity people had provided, in these parts, in festooning the lookouts with high tension towers. Two hours walk led to Avon Gap where another engineering marvel, the Unanderra to Moss Vale railway line, passed through, a very scenic line and frequented by the weekend Cockatoo steam train patronised by tourists and steam loco nuts.
  
 The end of that Stage saw some drama as Mars Pass deteriorated into Lantana City. An overnight in this jumble was a distinct possibility until mercifully, open country was reached as the dark was descending. This commenced a pattern of dramas associated with virtually all of the remaining passes that were on our route right through to the Kangaroo Valley. The end of that Stage saw some drama as Mars Pass deteriorated into Lantana City. An overnight in this jumble was a distinct possibility until mercifully, open country was reached as the dark was descending. This commenced a pattern of dramas associated with virtually all of the remaining passes that were on our route right through to the Kangaroo Valley.
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- +====== A Traditional (Wet) Easter in the Apsley Wilderness ====== 
-A TRADITIONAL (WET) EASTER IN THE APSLEY WILDERNESS +  
- +by Paul McCann.
- by Paul McCann.+
  
 Easter is always a time for traditions. For a bushwalker a traditional Easter Sunday usually involves a visit to your tent from the Easter bunny (or Bilby), with the freshly fallen rain on the ground and on your tent. Well this Easter certainly lived up to tradition with the rain falling over most of the weekend and the fun of unpacking a wet tent after the walk. Easter is always a time for traditions. For a bushwalker a traditional Easter Sunday usually involves a visit to your tent from the Easter bunny (or Bilby), with the freshly fallen rain on the ground and on your tent. Well this Easter certainly lived up to tradition with the rain falling over most of the weekend and the fun of unpacking a wet tent after the walk.
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 Despite the weather everyone enjoyed themselves and saw lots of interesting things. Oxley-Wild Rivers National Park offers enjoyable, walking with very little scrub and there is always a view from most of the ridges if the atmospheric conditions allow. Most of the park is in a rain shadow area. The easterly winds blow moisture in from the sea and most of the rain falls on the escarpment areas to the east as the air rises over the escarpment. The rainfall decreases to the west of the escarpment over the Macleay and Apsley gorges. However very strong high pressure systems accompanied by other factors such as upper air disturbances and low pressure systems nearby, produce more, widespread rain which can reach inland as far as Moree and beyond. In those circumstances one can expect rain over a much larger area. Generally if is raining in Armidale then it will most likely be raining in the Macleay and Apsley gorges, which was certainly the case over Easter. The weather map showed rainfall over most of New South Wales on Easter Sunday.  Despite the weather everyone enjoyed themselves and saw lots of interesting things. Oxley-Wild Rivers National Park offers enjoyable, walking with very little scrub and there is always a view from most of the ridges if the atmospheric conditions allow. Most of the park is in a rain shadow area. The easterly winds blow moisture in from the sea and most of the rain falls on the escarpment areas to the east as the air rises over the escarpment. The rainfall decreases to the west of the escarpment over the Macleay and Apsley gorges. However very strong high pressure systems accompanied by other factors such as upper air disturbances and low pressure systems nearby, produce more, widespread rain which can reach inland as far as Moree and beyond. In those circumstances one can expect rain over a much larger area. Generally if is raining in Armidale then it will most likely be raining in the Macleay and Apsley gorges, which was certainly the case over Easter. The weather map showed rainfall over most of New South Wales on Easter Sunday. 
  
-I hope to do the original walk as planned next Easter if the weather is suitable. Watch the walks program for more details+I hope to do the original walk as planned next Easter if the weather is suitable. Watch the walks program for more details.
  
-Participants:+Participants: SBW, Paul McCann (leader), Tony Holgate, Jan Roberts. The Wilderness Society (Sydney). Ian Ball, Michelle Ball, Joanne Braithwaite (visitor from Brisbane) The Inverell Bushwalking Club Jack Patton, Doug Hatfield.
  
-SBW, Paul McCann (leader), Tony Holgate, Jan Roberts. The Wilderness Society (Sydney). Ian Ball, Michelle Ball, Joanne Braithwaite (visitor from Brisbane) 
  
-The Inverell Bushwalking Club Jack Patton, Doug Hatfield. +====== Climbing Mt Kilimanjaro ======
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-Climbing Mt Kilimanjaro +
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-by Jan Szarek+
  
 + by Jan Szarek
 Final part of Jan’s African Odyssey Final part of Jan’s African Odyssey
  
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-Jean Kendall +**Jean Kendall**
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-Jean's daughter, Lisa McMullen and Jean's son Martin have requested us to pass on the appreciation of all members of Jean's family to all of Jean's-friends and fellow walkers for their kind thoughts and support following the tragic loss of their mother. They also wish to thank them for helping to enrich their mother's full and happy life. +Jean's daughter, Lisa McMullen and Jean's son Martin have requested us to pass on the appreciation of all members of Jean's family to all of Jean's friends and fellow walkers for their kind thoughts and support following the tragic loss of their mother. They also wish to thank them for helping to enrich their mother's full and happy life. 
  
-Greg Bridge seriously ill. +**Greg Bridge seriously ill** 
  
-Our sincere best wishes are extended to Greg Bridge, who recently became seriously ill whilst on holidays in Townsville. Greg wishes to thank.-all of those people who have Written or sent flowers and regrets that +Our sincere best wishes are extended to Greg Bridge, who recently became seriously ill whilst on holidays in Townsville. Greg wishes to thank all of those people who have written or sent flowers and regrets that 
 he will not be able to respond individually to them for their thoughtfulness. he will not be able to respond individually to them for their thoughtfulness.
  
-A request by the Special Coolana Committee for input from club members. 
  
-The special Coolana committee has made a request for input from individual club members regarding the future of our +**A request by the Special Coolana Committee for input from club members.**
-Kangaroo Valley property. Interested members should write to the SBW secretary. Please note the new SBW box +
-number.+
  
-If you would like your views published please address your letter to the editor. +The special Coolana committee has made a request for input from individual club members regarding the future of our Kangaroo Valley property. Interested members should write to the SBW secretary. Please note the new SBW box number. If you would like your views published please address your letter to the editor. 
  
-Vale Bill Hall+**Vale Bill Hall**
  
-We regret to advise that Bill Hall, a former  +We regret to advise that Bill Hall, a former long time member died in Wollongong on July 2 aged 87. Our sincere condolences are extended to Fiona, Peter, Jeannie and Marion. 
-long time member died in Wollongong on +  
-July 2 aged 87. +  
 +**A request for better patronage of club overnight walks**
  
-Obr sincere condolences are extended to +Bill Capon, our walks secretary, is disappointed at the poor patronage shown for some club overnight walks, and he is making a request for better attendance. He is saddened that leaders are researching, planning and programming, interesting walks in areas other than the regularly walked traditional Blue Mountain and Budawang areas, and then are finding that their walks are being poorly attended.
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-A request for better patronage of club overnight walks Bill Capon, our walks secretary, is  +
-disappointed at the poor patronage shown for some club overnight walks, and he is making a request for better attendance. He is saddened that leaders are researching, planning and programming, interesting walks in areas other than the regularly walked traditional Blue Mountain and Budawang areas, and then are finding that their walks are being poorly attended.+
      
 Bill believes that this may be partially due to newer members not being familiar with the proposed walk areas and he is disappointed that these members are missing out on new walking experiences. He suggests that newer members consult the walks leaders and obtain more information than can be printed in the program.  Bill believes that this may be partially due to newer members not being familiar with the proposed walk areas and he is disappointed that these members are missing out on new walking experiences. He suggests that newer members consult the walks leaders and obtain more information than can be printed in the program. 
  
-THE ESSENTIAL SBW  
-DICTIONARY 
  
 +====== The Essential SBW Dictionary ======
 + 
 by Andrew Vilder by Andrew Vilder
  
 +A humorous look at some commonly used words in the Club. 
  
-A humorous look at some commonly used +Andrew has compiled a list of commonly used bushwalker terms to assist new walkers.  Some are printed below and if they prove helpful, more will be printed at a later date. Ed 
-words in the Club... +
  
-Andrew has compiled a list of commonly +billy can: h. a water-filled receptacle for cinders and ash. Sometimes used for cooking. 
-used bushWalker terms to assist new walkers.  +billy stick n. thin piece of wood which disappears immediately it is laid upon the ground. (refer :kindling)
-Some are printedbelow and if they prove +
-helpful, more will be printed at a later date.  +
-Ed  +
- +
-billy-can: h. a water-filled receptacle for  +
-cinders and ash. Sometimes used for +
-cooking. +
-billy-stick n. thin piece of wood which  +
-disappears immediately it is laid upon the  +
-ground. (refer :kindling)+
 bonox: n. a male Bovril.  bonox: n. a male Bovril. 
-compass: n. a type of donkey. (see also:  +compass: n. a type of donkey. (see also: jackass)
-jackass)+
 coolana: n. the opposite of a Thermos: coolana: n. the opposite of a Thermos:
-daypack n. an over the shoulder, nylon  +daypack n. an over the shoulder, nylon carrying device usually containing a Coolana of drink, sandwiches and sometimes a tent (depending on the leader.)  
-carrying device usually containing ,a,Coolana  +DEO: abb. Deputy executive officer (usually shouted by walkers who have mislaid the leader)  
- +distance: n. the horizontal component of a bushwalk, as opposed to the vertical component, the grunt. 
-of drink, sandwiches and sometimes a tent,  +
-(depending on the leader.)  +
-DEO: abb. Deputy executive officer +
-(usually shouted by walkers who have  +
-mislaid the leader)  +
-distance: n. the horizontal component of a  +
-bushwalk, as opposed to the vertical +
-component, the grunt. . +
 (distance x grunt one bushwalk) (distance x grunt one bushwalk)
-flannel-flower: n. a shy, retiring person who  +flannel-flower: n. a shy, retiring person who wears long pyjamas: (see also: wallflower, shrinking violet)  
-wears long pyjamas: (see also: wallflower,  +flu: n mysterious non-specific illness afflicting bushwalkers on evening before rainy weekends.: Often transmitted by telephone.
-shrinking violet)  +
-flu: n mysterious non-specific illness +
-afflicting bushwalkers on evening before  +
- +
-rainy weekends.: Often transmitted by +
-telephone.+
 gaiter: n. South American crocodile. gaiter: n. South American crocodile.
 Gatorade: n. croc repellent. Gatorade: n. croc repellent.
-hill: n. immovable obstruction between a  +hill: n. immovable obstruction between a campsite and a carpark  
-campsite and a. carpark.  +Jacaranda: p.n.. (Aborig.) Tall mountain in northern Snowy region, often misspelt as Jagungal 
-Jacaranda: p.n.. (Aborig.) Tall mountain in  +kindling: n. (myth.) a small dry piece of dry wood readily found near a campsite.  
-northern Snowy region, often misspelt as  +Kowmung: n. a hairy creature akin to the yowie said to inhabit Kanangra gorges, 
-Jagungal +K2K:-n. a rugged cereal taking about eleven hours to digest. Not to be confused with Special K, or KT26 — a sneaker. 
-kindling: n. (myth.) a small dry piece of dry  +leader: n. a type of question disallowed in court.
-wood readily found near a campsite.  +
-Kowmung: n. a hairy creature akin to the  +
-Yowie said to inhabit ICanangra gorges, +
- +
-K2K:-n. a rugged cereal taking about eleven  +
-hours to digest. Not to be confused with  +
-Special K, or KT26 — a sneaker. +
-leader: n. a type of question disallowed in  +
-court. +
 noodles: n. DNA gone wrong, noodles: n. DNA gone wrong,
-office bearers: n. pl. located under the +office bearers: n. pl. located under the Oki joists and floorboards. 
 +Prospective: n. mobile device used to transport tin cans over long distances. 
 +Six Foot Track n. what remains after you shift a billiard table. 
 +skin: n.(1). a violent person with shaven head.(2). old wine-cask liner used to imbue water with an alcoholic flavour.  
 +skinfull: n. happy-hour. 
 +volley: n. (NZ) a depression in the landscape between two hills 
 +Wombat: n. nocturnally active mobile concrete block, also called a sump-thumper.
  
-Oki joists and, floorboards. 
  
-Prospective: n. mobile device used to  +**Letter to the editor**
-transport tin cans over long distances. +
-Six Foot Track n. what remains after you  +
-shift. a billiard table.. +
-skin: n.(1). a violent person with shaven  +
-head. +
-(2). old wine-cask liner used to  +
-imbue watermith an alcoholic flavour.  +
-skinfull: n. happy-hour. +
-volley: n. (NZ) a depression in the landscape  +
-between two hills_ +
-Wombat: n. nocturnally active mobile  +
-concrete block, also called a sump-thumper.+
  
-Letter to the editor+====== Bushwalkers Beware The Fundis ======
  
-BUSHWALKERS, BEWARE THE FUNDIS 
  
 This is a reply to Henry Gold's letter published in the April issue of the Sydney Bushwalker. This is a reply to Henry Gold's letter published in the April issue of the Sydney Bushwalker.
  
-The terms "fundi" and "reals" evolved in Germany to distinguish the fundamentalist zealots from the realists in the Green _ movement. It has emerged in our press in recent weeks in describing the Democrat factions split over the GST. +The terms "fundi" and "reals" evolved in Germany to distinguish the fundamentalist zealots from the realists in the Green movement. It has emerged in our press in recent weeks in describing the Democrat factions split over the GST.
- +
-About four years ago in these pages, Ron Knightley neatly outlined the potential consequences of the SBW not taking amore reasoned approach to conservation matters; in other words, the consequences of being perceived to have joined .the fundis. We +
  
-believe that Ron's comments are still valid.. Now to Henry's letter. The two miscreants referred to by Henry are Garth Coulter. and Peter Stitt. We must correct errors in Henry's letter and put the record straight.+About four years ago in these pages, Ron Knightley neatly outlined the potential consequences of the SBW not taking amore reasoned approach to conservation matters; in other words, the consequences of being perceived to have joined the fundis. We believe that Ron's comments are still valid. Now to Henry's letter. The two miscreants referred to by Henry are Garth Coulter and Peter Stitt. We must correct errors in Henry's letter and put the record straight.
  
-Rather than having a poor showing, the Outdoor Recreation Party achieved a seat in the upper house with its representative being first of the minor parties. to gain a quota after the allocation of the two major parties' votes. The party is not a front of the Public Lands Users Alliance, nor of any other party or group, and never has been..-It was established three years ago to seek te represent. people interested in oUfdOor recreation namely, recreation vehicle drivers, horse and pony riders, fishing people, mountain bike riders, trail bike riders, skiers and snow board riders and bushwalkers - to seek to have a fair and proper allocation of ApproptiAtesublic lands for all recreational interests. Its members had been frustrated over a long period of time in trying,tomegotiate with politicians and the National Parks and Wildlife Service to have their recreational interests considered, let alone recognised and implemented. Accordingly, it: was decided that the only hope of having these needs satisfied, was to go political. +Rather than having a poor showing, the Outdoor Recreation Party achieved a seat in the upper house with its representative being first of the minor parties to gain a quota after the allocation of the two major parties' votes. The party is not a front of the Public Lands Users Alliance, nor of any other party or group, and never has been. It was established three years ago to seek to represent people interested in outdoor recreation namely, recreation vehicle drivers, horse and pony riders, fishing people, mountain bike riders, trail bike riders, skiers and snow board riders and bushwalkers - to seek to have a fair and proper allocation of appropriate public lands for all recreational interests. Its members had been frustrated over a long period of time in trying,to negotiate with politicians and the National Parks and Wildlife Service to have their recreational interests considered, let alone recognised and implemented. Accordingly, it was decided that the only hope of having these needs satisfied, was to go political. 
  
-In seeking its objective, the party is not "vehemently anti vilderness and pro- development in national parks, including mining and,19gging."Th,e party members do not wish to gqiici theiriactivities into all national parks and wilderness areas, as the letter implies... They fully recognise the need to preserve. important conservation and wilderness areas. In fact, all the party members we know are conservation minded and have, a genuine love for the bush. However, we do believe that the reservation of the large areas which have now been dedicated to parks and wilderness and the restrictions which have been placed on entry to them, effectively deprives the the general public atom gaining access. Too much of the natural areas of NSW has been locked up to all but small parties of eight experienced walkers - a minuscule proportion of the state population. We dread the possibility of more restrictions such as compulsory paid guides. +In seeking its objective, the party is not "vehemently anti wilderness and pro-development in national parks, including mining and logging." The party members do not wish to extend their activities into all national parks and wilderness areas, as the letter implies. They fully recognise the need to preserve. important conservation and wilderness areas. In fact, all the party members we know are conservation minded and have, a genuine love for the bush. However, we do believe that the reservation of the large areas which have now been dedicated to parks and wilderness and the restrictions which have been placed on entry to them, effectively deprives the the general public from gaining access. Too much of the natural areas of NSW has been locked up to all but small parties of eight experienced walkers - a minuscule proportion of the state population. We dread the possibility of more restrictions such as compulsory paid guides. 
  
-We totally reject the statement attributed to Noel Plumb, claiming that we want unrestricted accessAo all areas. This would be as abhorrent to us as it is to members of SBW. +We totally reject the statement attributed to Noel Plumb, claiming that we want unrestricted access to all areas. This would be as abhorrent to us as it is to members of SBW. 
  
-The last paragraph in Henry's letter clearly shows fundi overtones. The statement that Kosciusko snowfields have been concreted over beggars belief The ski resorts and slopes patronised by the 400,000 skiers in this state occupy less. than 2 % of the total park and are largely concrete free. The ski resorts occupy about 0.06% of the combined area of all the NSW national parks and yet skiers contribute, over the four winter months, two thirds of all the gate revenue. How much do bushwalkers contribute to moneys collected by the NP & WS, for the upkeep of the parks system?+The last paragraph in Henry's letter clearly shows fundi overtones. The statement that Kosciusko snowfields have been concreted over beggars belief the ski resorts and slopes patronised by the 400,000 skiers in this state occupy less than 2 % of the total park and are largely concrete free. The ski resorts occupy about 0.06% of the combined area of all the NSW national parks and yet skiers contribute, over the four winter months, two thirds of all the gate revenue. How much do bushwalkers contribute to moneys collected by the NP WS, for the upkeep of the parks system?
  
-Putting actions where our mouths are, one of us is an accredited and active bush regenerator and is also providing engineering advice to the NP & WS on a voluntary basis, The other is the president of an active Land Care group operating in a national park. From this perspective we are quietly amused at the debate over Coolana, the effort required to recruit volunteers to maintain it and the proposal for a road extension to give better access for members.  +Putting actions where our mouths are, one of us is an accredited and active bush regenerator and is also providing engineering advice to the NP WS on a voluntary basis, The other is the president of an active Land Care group operating in a national park. From this perspective we are quietly amused at the debate over Coolana, the effort required to recruit volunteers to maintain it and the proposal for a road extension to give better access for members. 
-We strongly urge the club to become active in fostering a national park by undertaking maintenance works, particularly track maintenance. If each NSW bushwalking club undertook to responsibility for the care and maintenance of particular areas, much of the - needless erosion damage caused from walking would be avoided. Let us follow the precedents set in Europe and the USA. We recognise that for this to happen, attitudes will have to change within the service (particularly within the day labour force) but at least we now'have a voice in parliament who can assist in promoting these ideas.+
  
-Lastly, we are disappointed that Henry did not check his facts with us or any other party member before he rushed into print. Signed.+We strongly urge the club to become active in fostering a national park by undertaking maintenance works, particularly track maintenance. If each NSW bushwalking club undertook to responsibility for the care and maintenance of particular areas, much of the needless erosion damage caused from walking would be avoided. Let us follow the precedents set in Europe and the USA. We recognise that for this to happen, attitudes will have to change within the service (particularly within the day labour force) but at least we now have a voice in parliament who can assist in promoting these ideas.
  
-Peter Stitt. +Lastly, we are disappointed that Henry did not check his facts with us or any other party member before he rushed into print. Signed Peter Stitt, Garth Coulter.
-Garth Coulter.+
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