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 |Notes from the Conservation Secretary|Tom Moppett| 4| |Notes from the Conservation Secretary|Tom Moppett| 4|
 |Letter from England|Ross Laird| 6| |Letter from England|Ross Laird| 6|
-|Notice re Anhual Reunion| | 7|+|Notice re Annual Reunion| | 7|
 |Down Channel Seven| | 8| |Down Channel Seven| | 8|
 |Seven weeks in New Zealand, Part One|Dot Butler| 9| |Seven weeks in New Zealand, Part One|Dot Butler| 9|
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 Frank Ashdown complained that his pants had gone red from sitting on the chrome left on the Ingersoll Hall seats and moved that we write to the Rationalist Association about it. Edna Garrad feelingly seconded the motion without going into detail. Carried. Frank Ashdown complained that his pants had gone red from sitting on the chrome left on the Ingersoll Hall seats and moved that we write to the Rationalist Association about it. Edna Garrad feelingly seconded the motion without going into detail. Carried.
  
-At the conclusion of the meeting Colin Putt asked for voluneers to dig a hole 6 ft. wide and 6 ft. deep at the Re-Union site. A well-attended Re-Union is anticipated.+At the conclusion of the meeting Colin Putt asked for volunteers to dig a hole 6 ft. wide and 6 ft. deep at the Re-Union site. A well-attended Re-Union is anticipated.
  
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 We announce with pleasure the arrival of three more young ladies to swell the S.B.W. ranks at some future date:- We announce with pleasure the arrival of three more young ladies to swell the S.B.W. ranks at some future date:-
  
-To Gill and Jean Webb, a daughter. No wonder Jean said she would be otherwide engaged when I invited her to come mountaineering in N.Z.+To Gill and Jean Webb, a daughter. No wonder Jean said she would be otherwise engaged when I invited her to come mountaineering in N.Z.
  
 To the Deans, a daughter. Kevin, Shirley and Penelope Ann (6 lbs. 13 ozs.) are all three doing well. To the Deans, a daughter. Kevin, Shirley and Penelope Ann (6 lbs. 13 ozs.) are all three doing well.
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 === December. === === December. ===
  
-quanter to midnight outside the Rose Bay Flying Base. A small crowd of Bushwalkers is milling about, cars and motor bikes adding more. Pete with his plaster leg is crouching on the kerbstone whacking last-minute tricouni nails into Donnie's boots. Geoffo and Grace, admiring a pine tree lit up like a Christmas tree, follow that line of thought and hope we get a decent Christmas  dinner when we hit Garth's place at Dunedin on Christmas Day. The Dalai Lama is telling us that our flying boat is a derelict old crate which has been off the run for years, and has only been resurrected as a hopeless gesture by QANTAS to try to cope with the Olympic crowds and it will undoubtedly crash into North Head when it tries to take off, but Good-bye and it's been nice to have known us..... and isn't Snow lucky to have gone by boat. A couple of flying boat crew go aboard wearing wading boots. We eye them apprehensively. "That's because you have to wade the last 50 miles," says Nobby. "A nautical mile is a bit more than a land mile, but that shouldn't worry Bushwalkers." The craft is due to depart at one minute to midnight. Our packs and ice-axes have already gone into its hold. We take a last look at the faces of our friends standing under the stars in the soft summer night, then we follow the gum-booted crew through a double wire-netted fence and step aboard. We are off.+quarter to midnight outside the Rose Bay Flying Base. A small crowd of Bushwalkers is milling about, cars and motor bikes adding more. Pete with his plaster leg is crouching on the kerbstone whacking last-minute tricouni nails into Donnie's boots. Geoffo and Grace, admiring a pine tree lit up like a Christmas tree, follow that line of thought and hope we get a decent Christmas  dinner when we hit Garth's place at Dunedin on Christmas Day. The Dalai Lama is telling us that our flying boat is a derelict old crate which has been off the run for years, and has only been resurrected as a hopeless gesture by QANTAS to try to cope with the Olympic crowds and it will undoubtedly crash into North Head when it tries to take off, but Good-bye and it's been nice to have known us..... and isn't Snow lucky to have gone by boat. A couple of flying boat crew go aboard wearing wading boots. We eye them apprehensively. "That's because you have to wade the last 50 miles," says Nobby. "A nautical mile is a bit more than a land mile, but that shouldn't worry Bushwalkers." The craft is due to depart at one minute to midnight. Our packs and ice-axes have already gone into its hold. We take a last look at the faces of our friends standing under the stars in the soft summer night, then we follow the gum-booted crew through a double wire-netted fence and step aboard. We are off.
  
 The take-off was out of this world, with great walls of green flying water and silver bubbles tearing past the windows - all flashing, and sparkling in the moonlight. The myriad lights of Sydney below - then the quiet steady flight - blue ocean, blue sky, and on one side the moon and on the other two stars. We flew well above the clouds, floating below like feathers out of a sleeping bag. The take-off was out of this world, with great walls of green flying water and silver bubbles tearing past the windows - all flashing, and sparkling in the moonlight. The myriad lights of Sydney below - then the quiet steady flight - blue ocean, blue sky, and on one side the moon and on the other two stars. We flew well above the clouds, floating below like feathers out of a sleeping bag.
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 Betty and Pete were at the wharf to welcome us, a highly animated duo amongst the quiet, restrained local folk. Pete had his motor-bike and drove packs and passengers up one at a time to their flat just above the Bay. Betty turned on a wonderful meal for her guests. Pete borrowed the parents' car and the afternoon was devoted to sight-seeing Wellington. We spent the night at the house of an Alpine Club friend who would be joining us for the last fortnight at Mt. Cook. Bed by midnight, planning to be away early next morning to catch the bus to Rotorua where we were to meet up with Snow. Betty and Pete were at the wharf to welcome us, a highly animated duo amongst the quiet, restrained local folk. Pete had his motor-bike and drove packs and passengers up one at a time to their flat just above the Bay. Betty turned on a wonderful meal for her guests. Pete borrowed the parents' car and the afternoon was devoted to sight-seeing Wellington. We spent the night at the house of an Alpine Club friend who would be joining us for the last fortnight at Mt. Cook. Bed by midnight, planning to be away early next morning to catch the bus to Rotorua where we were to meet up with Snow.
  
-Owing to a slight misinterprepation of the time-table we got to the bus depot to receive an unpleasant shock.+Owing to a slight misinterpretation of the time-table we got to the bus depot to receive an unpleasant shock.
  
-"Three tickets to Rotorua by the next bus," said I, passing our money acrose the counter.+"Three tickets to Rotorua by the next bus," said I, passing our money across the counter.
  
 "The next bus is tomorrow at 8 a.m." said the gent behind the counter. "To-day's bus left 25 minutes ago." Consternation!! "The next bus is tomorrow at 8 a.m." said the gent behind the counter. "To-day's bus left 25 minutes ago." Consternation!!
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 +===== Federation Report, February 1957. =====
  
-FEDERATION REPORT, FEBRUARY 1957  
 - Allen A. Strom - Allen A. Strom
-SEARCH & RESCUE: Following upon a call for assistance in the search along the Williams Range (Barrington area), arrangements were made for a party to leave almost immediately for Barrington House to join in the work. + 
-FEDERATION BALL, 1956'A profit of about Z39 was made on the Ball, PUBLICITY: An advertisement in the "Herald" on Saturday, Jan.12th +=== Search @ Rescue=== 
-had brought 24 replies, All:Of-which were. gtnswered. It was decided to forward the names and addresses of all who replied to the_affiliat ed clubs so that SOIDB idea of the success of this publicity work could be estimated  Two more advertisements will be placed in the "Herald" to take advantage of the coming Easter period, + 
-FEDERATION REUNION: This will be held on April 6/7th. Peter +Following upon a call for assistance in the search along the Williams Range (Barrington area), arrangements were made for a party to leave almost immediately for Barrington House to join in the work. 
-Cartwright will act as Convenor for the Reunion Committee. One delegate is requested from each Club to add to the Committee. It will + 
-meet at the Rooms of the Big Sister Movement, Penfold Place, on the first Thursday in March (March 7th) to decide on a suitable spot for the Reunion and other matters. A Campfire.Leader is also required. +=== Federation Ball=== 
-TRACK MARKING. 'Mr. Paddy Paliin has undertaken_to,supply,a,plan for Track Marking in the Lady Davidson Park. When this has been supplied the Federation will seek permission and assistance from the Trust of the Park (the Kuring-gai and Waringah Shire Councils) to + 
-mark andlay out :these traqks. It was suggested ,that Clubs might like to adopt certain areas in order that the work will be carried out. +A profit of about £39 was made on the Ball
-NATIONAL PARKS ASSOCIATION: This organisation was launched on Feb16th at a meeting called by the Federation. Congratulatory letters were received from a number of local bodies and some interstate and overseas organisations. The new Association will organise field + 
-activities to National Parks of to-day and tomorrow, foster the better and more efficient use of the National Parks and watch over the welfare of the National Parks. Membership is invited: 15/-, or for married couples. Enquiries re membership to Allen M. Fox, 92 Yathong Rd., Caringbah. (Phone: L37304), +=== Publicity=== 
-TI WARRUMBUNGLE NATIONAL PARK TRUST is organising a Photographic Competition. Provision is made for the following prize list for photographs taken within the National Park:- + 
-Colour Transparency: 1st Prize: 75, +An advertisement in the "Herald" on Saturday, Jan. 12th had brought 24 replies, all of which were answered. It was decided to forward the names and addresses of all who replied to the affiliated clubs so that some idea of the success of this publicity work could be estimatedTwo more advertisements will be placed in the "Herald" to take advantage of the coming Easter period
-Five consolation prizes of 54 Black and White Print: 1st Prize: 25. + 
-Five consolation prizes of 5. Entry details will soon be available from the Sectyof the Trust, Shire Clerk, Coonabarabran. +=== Federation Reunion. === 
-NATIONAL PARKS ACT: Arrangements are being completed for a deputation to wait on the Minister for Lands to ask for a National Parks Act that will define a National Park, give-them security, finance and a Service directed by a Constituted Authority.  + 
-18. +This will be held on April 6/7th. Peter Cartwright will act as Convenor for the Reunion Committee. One delegate is requested from each Club to add to the Committee. It will meet at the Rooms of the Big Sister Movement, Penfold Place, on the first Thursday in March (March 7th) to decide on a suitable spot for the Reunion and other matters. A Campfire Leader is also required. 
-REPORT OF S.B.W. SKI-HUT SUB-COMMITTEE  Replies to Questionnaire: + 
-To date (11th Feb.) 17 replies have been received to the questionnaire sent outin December.  Fifteen members have said they would donate 2,10 and five have said they would_ donate sumstotalling 215, making a total of 265 in prospect, from both donations and loans. Seven areprepared to spend Easter working on the huts eight to spend Christmas and/or New Year, and eight'to-gO up at Other times. Five are prepared to act as hut officials, five to act on the building committee, and thirteen to do maintenance Work should the but bebuilt. Several have offered transport. One member has offered to do  a fortnight's work, or in lieu, donate a fortnight's payPaddy Pallinhad offered to handle the bookings, gratis. Ken Angle says that many + 
-members of the Newcastle'Technical and University College Bushwalking Club would probably be interested in subScribing. +=== Track Marking: === 
-.Ex-President Dorothy Lawry writes.fromAuckland offering a donation when the hut is started and saying she is all in favour of the project. She quotes John Hunter (an old _member_ of our Club, now + 
-in Auckland) as saying that his Club, the Alpine Sports' Club, was in the doldrums until it undertook to build a hut on Mount Ruapehus 200 miles away. Since then it has gone from strength to strength +Mr. Paddy Pallin has undertaken to supply a plan for Track Marking in the Lady Davidson Park. When this has been supplied the Federation will seek permission and assistance from the Trust of the Park (the Kuring-gai and Waringah Shire Councils) to mark and lay out these tracks. It was suggested that Clubs might like to adopt certain areas in order that the work will be carried out. 
-It will be the young and active members," Dorothy writes, "who will be doing the works and enjoying the results of their work, and I doH not think that we older moMbersshould-veto the idea and discourage them. Rather we Should do our part by'helping to raise the nedessary money." + 
-Club Trustee Joe. daea ngt'suPPart,the proposal because only a,AM411 Pi.oportiO'of Club momberS are interested in ski7ing. He thinks there are other projects needing our urgent support which would benefit all bushwalkersHe is concerned about hut revenue, lettings repairs and vandalism. Also he has found promises of labour unreliable. However Joe ,says he is "one of those persons who believe in majority rule, and, if the Club in its wisdom believes in the scheme" he will make a loan towards it. +=== National Parks Association=== 
-Cost of Hut  + 
-At the January General Meeting the Sub-Committee was asked to prepare an estimate of the cost of a hut designed to fulfil the minimum requirements of the Kosciusko State Park TrustThe main stipulations of the Trust are: Area 6 squares (minimum) with acquata storage space; a septic tank; foundations of natural stone properly constructed-in random rubble; walls of stone or timber. At a meeting held on Jan.22nd the Sub-Committee,determlned the minimum cost of a building conforming to these requirements, and containing the bare essentials of furniture and fittings, as 957/14/. +This organisation was launched on Feb16th at a meeting called by the Federation. Congratulatory letters were received from a number of local bodies and some interstate and overseas organisations. The new Association will organise field activities to National Parks of to-day and tomorrow, foster the better and more efficient use of the National Parks and watch over the welfare of the National Parks. Membership is invited: 15/-, or £1 for married couples. Enquiries re membership to Allen M. Fox, 92 Yathong Rd., Caringbah. (Phone: LB7304). 
-ALTERATION TO SOCIAL PROGRAMME: The events for Mch.20 and 27 hare + 
-been reversed, as under:- (Dave Brown, Don Newis ) Mch.20 New Zealand Mountaineering -(Dot Butler, George Grey) Mch.27 Colour Slides - George Dibley. +=== The Warrumbungle National Park Trust: === 
-19. S.B.W. SKI HUT (Contd.)+ 
 +Is organising a Photographic Competition. Provision is made for the following prize list for photographs taken within the National Park:- 
 + 
 +Colour Transparency: 1st Prize: £75. Five consolation prizes of £5. 
 + 
 +Black and White Print: 1st Prize: £25. Five consolation prizes of £5. 
 + 
 +Entry details will soon be available from the Sectyof the Trust, Shire Clerk, Coonabarabran. 
 + 
 +=== National Parks Act=== 
 + 
 +Arrangements are being completed for a deputation to wait on the Minister for Lands to ask for a National Parks Act that will define a National Park, give them security, finance and a Service directed by a Constituted Authority.  
 + 
 +---- 
 + 
 +===== Report Of S.B.W. Ski-Hut Sub-Committee. ===== 
 + 
 +=== Replies to Questionnaire: === 
 + 
 +To date (11th Feb.) 17 replies have been received to the questionnaire sent out in December. Fifteen members have said they would donate £10 and five have said they would donate sums totalling £115, making a total of £265 in prospect, from both donations and loans. Seven are prepared to spend Easter working on the huts eight to spend Christmas and/or New Year, and eight to go up at other times. Five are prepared to act as hut officials, five to act on the building committee, and thirteen to do maintenance work should the hut be built. Several have offered transport. One member has offered to do a fortnight's work, or in lieu, donate a fortnight's payPaddy Pallin had offered to handle the bookings, gratis. Ken Angle says that many members of the Newcastle Technical and University College Bushwalking Club would probably be interested in subscribing
 + 
 +Ex-President Dorothy Lawry writes from Auckland offering a donation when the hut is started and saying she is all in favour of the project. She quotes John Hunter (an old member of our Club, now in Auckland) as saying that his Club, the Alpine Sports' Club, was in the doldrums until it undertook to build a hut on Mount Ruapehus 200 miles away. Since then it has gone from strength to strength. "It will be the young and active members," Dorothy writes, "who will be doing the works and enjoying the results of their work, and I do not think that we older members should veto the idea and discourage them. Rather we should do our part by helping to raise the necessary money." 
 + 
 +Club Trustee Joe Turner does not support the proposal because only a small proportion of Club members are interested in ski-ing. He thinks there are other projects needing our urgent support which would benefit all bushwalkersHe is concerned about hut revenue, letting, repairs and vandalism. Also he has found promises of labour unreliable. However Joe says he is "one of those persons who believe in majority rule, and, if the Club in its wisdom believes in the scheme" he will make a loan towards it. 
 + 
 +=== Cost of Hut. === 
 + 
 +At the January General Meeting the Sub-Committee was asked to prepare an estimate of the cost of a hut designed to fulfil the minimum requirements of the Kosciusko State Park TrustThe main stipulations of the Trust are: Area 6 squares (minimum) with adequate storage space; a septic tank; foundations of natural stone properly constructed in random rubble; walls of stone or timber. At a meeting held on Jan. 22nd the Sub-Committee determined the minimum cost of a building conforming to these requirements, and containing the bare essentials of furniture and fittings, as £957/14/9
 Cost and weight of a hut conforming to minimum requirements of Kosciusko State Park Trust - based on Sydney prices - exclusive of labour. Cost and weight of a hut conforming to minimum requirements of Kosciusko State Park Trust - based on Sydney prices - exclusive of labour.
-. ITEM COST WEIGHT  + 
- E, s d Tons.Cwt. +|**Item**|**Cost**|**Weight**| 
-+| |£   d|Tons. Cwt.| 
-+|4 c.yds. sand at 7/6|1 10 -|4 -| 
-+|25 bags cement at £12/5/ton|15 7 9|1 1| 
-+|7 bags lime at 7/6|2 13 6 |- 5| 
-+|2100 super ft. hardwood at £8/14/6|172 14 6|- 5| 
-+|750 super ft. hardwood flooring at £9/3/6|68 16 3|17| 
-+|1350 super ft. weatherboard at £8/l7/6|119 16 3|3 7| 
-+|2100 super ft. Masonite lining at £3/-/3|63 3|1 3| 
-+|46 10-ft. sheets roofing iron at 26/6|60 19 - |- 8| 
-+|400 ft. oregon cover strip 2" x 1/2" at 42/-|8 8 -| | 
-+|200 ft. quad at 33-|3 6 -| | 
-+|architraves and jambs|10 - -| | 
-10 +|Fibro for eaves|5 - -| | 
-17 +|Sisalcraft - 1 roll|5 - -|- 1| 
-MAGAZINE BUSINESS MANAGER'S NOTE:+|300 ft. 3/4" galv. water pipe at 132/7|19 17 9|- 5| 
 +|30 4" stoneware pipes at 4/6|6 15 -|- 4| 
 +|external door|2 -  -| | 
 +|internal doors|7 2 - |- 1| 
 +|Windows|15 - -|- 2| 
 +|Sink bowl for basin|18 - -| | 
 +|1-cwt. nails at 1/3 lb.|7 10 -|- 1| 
 +|Roofing nails|1 10 -| | 
 +|30 in. porcelain enamel sink|6 18 9| | 
 +|flashing|5 - -| | 
 +|"Canberra" fuel stove|31 9|- 3| 
 +|6 1/2 galls. paint (exterior only)|15 - -|- 1| 
 +|Locks, hinges, catches, etc.|6 - -| | 
 +|60 c.ft. (space) internal shelving, supboards &c.|20 - -|- 2| 
 +|Materials for bunks|20 - -|- 4| 
 +|stools and table|10 - -|- 2| 
 +|1 pressure lamp|7 - -| | 
 +|2 ordinary lamps|3 - -| | 
 +|Cooking utensils|5  - -| | 
 +|Tools (axe, shovel, etc.)|8 - -| | 
 +|Application fee|3 3 -| | 
 +|3 taps|4 - -| | 
 +|Septic tank|56 - - | | 
 +|Contingencies, breakages, etc.|30 - -| | 
 +|Cartage|130 - -| | 
 +|Sundry weight not elsewhere included| |- 10|   
 +|**TOTAL**|£957 14 9|15 17| 
 + 
 +---- 
 + 
 +=== Alterations to Social Programme: === 
 + 
 +The events for Mch. 20 and 27 have been reversed, as under:- (Dave Brown, Don Newis)  
 + 
 +Mch.20 New Zealand Mountaineering -(Dot Butler, George Grey) 
 + 
 +Mch.27 Colour Slides - George Dibley. 
 + 
 +---- 
 + 
 +=== Magazine Business Manager's Note=== 
 Magazine finances this year showed a small profit, a clear indication that we are paying our way in face of rising costs. Thanks go to all our supporters for their efforts. Magazine finances this year showed a small profit, a clear indication that we are paying our way in face of rising costs. Thanks go to all our supporters for their efforts.
-4 c.yds. sand at 7/6 1 10 - 4 
-25 bags cement at 121519 a ton 15 7 9 1 
-7 bags lime at 7/6 2 13 6  
-2100 super ft. hardwood at 8/14/6 172 14 6 2 
-750 super ft. hardwood flooring at ,,/3/6 68 16 3 1 
-1350 zuper ft. weatherboard at 8/l7/6 119 16 3 '3 
-2100 super ft. Masonite lining at 3 -,/3 63 5 3 1 
-46 10-ft. sheets roofing iron at 26/6 60 19 -  
-400 ft. oregon cover strip 2" x P at 42/- 8 8 ;..  
-200 ft. quad at 337- 3 6 -  
-architraves and jambs :if 10 -  
-Fibro for eaves 'BD  
-  
-Sisalcraft - 1 roll ' 5 -  
-300 ft. -21" galv. water pipe at 132/7. 19 17 9  
-30 4" stoneware pipes at4/6 6 15  
-1 external door 2 -  
-2 internal doors 7 2 -  
-Windows 15 -.  
-Sink bowl for basin 18  
-1-cwt. nails at 1/3 lb. 7 10  
-Roofing nails 1 10  
-30 in. porcelain enamel sink 6 18  
-flashing 5 - Olt  
-"Canberra" fuel stove 31 3 9  
-6- galls. paint (exterior only) 15 -  
-Locks, hinges, catches, etc. 6 .  
-60 c.ft. (space) internal shelving, supboards &c.20 - -  
-Materials for bunks 20 .6 ..  
-2 stools and table 10  
-1 pressure lamp 7  
-2 ordinary lamps 3  
-Cooking utensils 5  
-Tools (axe, shovel, etc.) 8  
-Application fee 3  
-3 taps 1I11  
-  
-Septic tank 56 - -  
-Contingencies, breakages, etc. 30 -   
-Cartage 130 - -  
-Sundry weight not elsewhere included   
- 957 14 9 15 
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