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195301 [2016/02/11 21:44] kennettj195301 [2016/05/04 15:11] (current) – [At The December General Meeting] kennettj
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 there were insufficient walks.  there were insufficient walks. 
  
-George Spicer thought it a good thing that day walks were on the way out - they were only hikes" - fit perhaps for new members and women (Derisive applause.) Kevin Ardill invited him to attend a day hike in April to prove it was not exactly a "hike".+George Spicer thought it a good thing that day walks were on the way out - they were only "hikes" - fit perhaps for new members and women (Derisive applause.) Kevin Ardill invited him to attend a day hike in April to prove it was not exactly a "hike".
  
 With the President's reminder that we must choose our 1953 Re-Union site at the January meeting, we drew a curtain an the meeting at 9.30 p.m. With the President's reminder that we must choose our 1953 Re-Union site at the January meeting, we drew a curtain an the meeting at 9.30 p.m.
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-Please note the following CORRECTIONS TO TIMES OF TRAINS shown in the Walks Progranme for JANUARY: +Please note the following CORRECTIONS TO TIMES OF TRAINS shown in the Walks Programme for JANUARY: 
-JAN. 17/18 - 2.12 p.m. Lilyvale. Probably 12.12 p.m. Other trains are 1.5,-2.0 and 5,20. No service at 2.12 p.m. + 
-JAN, 10/Il - 1.5 p.m. Waterfall. This train does not stop Waterfall.Catch 12.32 or 1.24 electric trains change at Sutherland to rail notbr. These connect with Tbus to Garie, +JAN. 17/18 - 2.12 p.m. Lilyvale. Probably 12.12 p.m. Other trains are 1.5, 2.0 and 5.20. No service at 2.12 p.m. 
-JAN. 11- 8.40 a.m. Waterfall) Should read 8,44 electric. Change JAN. 17/18 - 8.40 a.m. Cronulla at Sutherland for Waterfall,+ 
 +JAN, 10/Il - 1.5 p.m. Waterfall. This train does not stop Waterfall. Catch 12.32 or 1.24 electric trains change at Sutherland to rail motor. These connect with bus to Garie
 + 
 +JAN. 11 - 8.40 a.m. Waterfall should read 8.44 electric. Change JAN. 17/18 - 8.40 a.m. Cronulla at Sutherland for Waterfall
 APRIL 18/19 - Walks Leader shown as Jim Hooper - should read Jim Brown. APRIL 18/19 - Walks Leader shown as Jim Hooper - should read Jim Brown.
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-BUSHFIRE SUB-COMMITTEE PROGRESS REPORT - 21ST NOVEMBER, 1952.+ 
 +====== Bushfire Sub-Committee Progress Report ====== 
 + 
 +21ST NOVEMBER, 1952.
 (Adopted at December General Meeting.) (Adopted at December General Meeting.)
  
 Following adoption by the Club General Meeting of the Bushfire Sub,Committee's Report, dated 19th June, 1952, letters were written as instructed. Following adoption by the Club General Meeting of the Bushfire Sub,Committee's Report, dated 19th June, 1952, letters were written as instructed.
  
-These suggested, in brief - +These suggested, in brief -\\ 
-(1) District Fire Officers should be appointed, under the Bush Fire Committee, to stimulate local authority into action, help police the Act, assist Councils and Fire Captains, etc. +(1) District Fire Officers should be appointed, under the Bush Fire Committee, to stimulate local authority into action, help police the Act, assist Councils and Fire Captains, etc.\\ 
-(2) That paid forces stand by for fire spotting aid fighting. +(2) That paid forces stand by for fire spotting and fighting.\\ 
-(3) The Services be trained and equipped to play a full part in fire spotting and fighting, and in particular to protect National Parks.+(3) The Services be trained and equipped to play a full part in fire spotting and fighting, and in particular to protect National Parks.\\
  
 The letters to the Prime Minister and Leader of the Opposition covered Point 3 only. The letters to the Prime Minister and Leader of the Opposition covered Point 3 only.
  
 The Prime Minister replied that the Services do plan and train for fire fighting and provide naximum assistance where possible. Protection of National Parks is responsibility of State Authorities. The Prime Minister replied that the Services do plan and train for fire fighting and provide naximum assistance where possible. Protection of National Parks is responsibility of State Authorities.
-Leaderof Federal Opposition replied that the matter would be referred to the Federal Parliamentary Labor Party. +Leader of Federal Opposition replied that the matter would be referred to the Federal Parliamentary Labor Party. 
-Letters to Premier, Leader of Opposition, Mr. Kingamill and Mr. Messor covered all three points.+ 
 +Letters to Premier, Leader of Opposition, Mr. Kingamill and Mr. Messer covered all three points.
  
 Mr. Messer, Chairman of the Bushfire Committee, asked your Hon. Conservation Secretary to call and discuss the matter. Mr. Messer, Chairman of the Bushfire Committee, asked your Hon. Conservation Secretary to call and discuss the matter.
-Interview with'Nr. Messer Chaim2:12.1Bushfire Committee - + 
------Mries(172:-TUFE-Uctober-rgb-S--;---Enlia=o167--The following inforn= was given-7.7g. Messer=iTly to=r letter: +Interview with Mr Messer Chairman, Bushfire Committee - 
-Covernment and Bushfire Committee are firmly wedded to Voluntary System and Local Councils, for present at any rate, and are determined to make them work if at all possible. + 
-It is the task bf Local Councils to organise bushfire brigades, look after equipment, police the Act (e.g. by seeing that breaks are prepared and rubbish burnt), issue permits for burning off during fire danger periods, etc. etc. +Government and Bushfire Committee are firmly wedded to Voluntary System and Local Councils, for present at any rate, and are determined to make them work if at all possible. It is the task of Local Councils to organise bushfire brigades, look after equipment, police the Act (e.g. by seeing that breaks are prepared and rubbish burnt), issue permits for burning off during fire danger periods, etc. etc. 
-Members of the Bushfire Committee and Forestry Officers are visiting Counci3s, calling and attending conferences, and doing all in their power to stimulate Councils into action, and are achieving a considerable amount of success. They look to Patrol Officers, otherwise Hon. Rangers, very considerably to help police the Act. (News items of + 
-various conferences, broadcaSt debates, newspaper articles and editorials, debates in Parliament, etc., show that the subject is in fact receiving very considerable attention.)+Members of the Bushfire Committee and Forestry Officers are visiting Councils, calling and attending conferences, and doing all in their power to stimulate Councils into action, and are achieving a considerable amount of success. They look to Patrol Officers, otherwise Hon. Rangers, very considerably to help police the Act. (News items of various conferences, broadcast debates, newspaper articles and editorials, debates in Parliament, etc., show that the subject is in fact receiving very considerable attention.) 
 Arrangements for fire spotting and fire fighting forces to stand by on blow-up days and be paid for it considered rather impractical, "Just have to wait until people can get there from their work." Arrangements for fire spotting and fire fighting forces to stand by on blow-up days and be paid for it considered rather impractical, "Just have to wait until people can get there from their work."
 The Services do give very considerable assistance and a body of soldiers is available quite quickly in the Metropolitan area through the Police Rescue Intelligence Centre. They can't spare the time for spotting and standing by. They carry little equipment. Navy cooperates with Forestry Commission along the coast. The Services do give very considerable assistance and a body of soldiers is available quite quickly in the Metropolitan area through the Police Rescue Intelligence Centre. They can't spare the time for spotting and standing by. They carry little equipment. Navy cooperates with Forestry Commission along the coast.
 Question of Army and R.A.A.F. having much greater supply of equipment has been considered but decided better to have stores of spare equipment in all areas for use of army or any other volunteers. Question of Army and R.A.A.F. having much greater supply of equipment has been considered but decided better to have stores of spare equipment in all areas for use of army or any other volunteers.
-Good equipment, including mobile tanks with power pumps, is now being supplied in considerable quantities, and as a result man power in large quantities is rather less important than it was. +Good equipment, including mobile tanks with power pumps, is now being supplied in considerable quantities, and as a result man power in large quantities is rather less important than it was. Spotting - everyone, no matter what they are doing, should be spotters, and should a fire be seen, immediately inform the police.
-Spotting - everyone, no matter what they are doing, should be spotters, and should a fire be seen, immediataly inform the police.+
  
-No satisfactory solution to the problem of National Parks, other than places like the Koala Sanctuary in Kuring-gai Chase, was suggested. +No satisfactory solution to the problem of National Parks, other than places like the Koala Sanctuary in Kuring-gai Chase, was suggested. The use of parachute troops in eucalypt areas too dangerous - in U.S.A. small use is made of them in fire areas. The fires mostly on ground and a frequently used weapon is ditch digging. This reported by officer who visited U.S.A. in 1951. Bombs - nothing in it. (Although in Bush Fire Bulletin Vol.1 No.1 September, 1952 - Premier asked that C.S.I.R.O, investigate, amongst other items, use of chemical bombs as fire extinguishants.)
-The use of parachute troops in eucalypt areas too dangerous - in U.S.A. small use is made of them in fire areas. The fires mostly on ground and a frequently used weapon is ditch digging. This reported by officer who visited U.S.A. in 1951. Bombs - nothing in it. (Although in Bush Fire Bulletin Vol.1 No.1 September, 1952 - Premier asked that C.S.I.R.O, investigate, amongst other items, use of chemical bombs as fire extinguishants.) +
-Education, of individuals, Councils, everyone, of prime importance Mr. Messer thinks Bushwalkers could do valmble work :- +
-In educating public by talking ganerally and by National Park patrols. Should become Hon. Rangers under Budhfire Act (Chief Secretary's Department). +
-Put up notices in National Park where crowds gather. +
-Maintain lookout with gear to get to and put out small fires. Learn correct technique, e.g. beaters not for beating. +
-Ask for supply of each issue of Bush Fire Bulletin say 25, not large number printed. (Federation do this). +
-Following are main points made in a speech by Mr. Pelly, M,L,A, for Wollondilly, in a speech in the Assembly on 14th October, 1952 :- +
-Actual fighting of fires must be left in the hands of volunteer brigades under their captains.+
  
 +Education, of individuals, Councils, everyone, of prime importance Mr. Messer thinks Bushwalkers could do valuable work \\
 +In educating public by talking generally and by National Park patrols. Should become Hon. Rangers under Bushfire Act (Chief Secretary's Department).\\
 +Put up notices in National Park where crowds gather.\\
 +Maintain lookout with gear to get to and put out small fires. Learn correct technique, e.g. beaters not for beating.\\
 +Ask for supply of each issue of Bush Fire Bulletin say 25, not large number printed. (Federation do this).\\
 +
 +Following are main points made in a speech by Mr. Pelly, M,L,A, for Wollondilly, in a speech in the Assembly on 14th October, 1952 \\
 +Actual fighting of fires must be left in the hands of volunteer brigades under their captains.
  
 Essential factors for success are Essential factors for success are
  
-(1) Thorough precautions before danger period begins, including organisation of lookouts, +(1) Thorough precautions before danger period begins, including organisation of lookouts,\\ 
-(2) Adequate modern equipment, and+(2) Adequate modern equipment, and\\
 (3) Single control in hands of one local authority in each area. Bushfire Sub-Committee findings and recommendations. (3) Single control in hands of one local authority in each area. Bushfire Sub-Committee findings and recommendations.
  
-It appears that quite considerable stimulation of Councils is taking place, by the efforts of the Bushfire Committee even without paid "District Fire Officers", and by public interest generally. +It appears that quite considerable stimulation of Councils is taking place, by the efforts of the Bushfire Committee even without paid "District Fire Officers", and by public interest generally. There is no possibility of paid officers being appointed or of standby forces being organised and paid this summer. 
-There is no possibility of paid officers being appointed or of standby forces being organised and paid this summer. +While we know the Services do a lot, we think they could be organised to do a lot more. There is little to be gained by putting forward further our views, at present, but any suitable opportunity should be taken, particularly by watching for flaws during the coming fire season. 
-While we know the Services do a lot, we think they could be organised to do a lot more. + 
-There is little to be gained by putting forward further our views, at present, but any suitable opportunity should be taken, particularly by watching for flaws during the coning fire season. +Meanwhile, doing field work ourselves will give much greater authority to our views and make members of the Bushfire Committee and others readier to listen and might well be of considerable practical value. 
-Meanwhile, doing field work ourselves will give nuch greater +We should -\\ 
-authority to our views and make members of the Bushfire Committee and others readier to listen and might well be of considerable practical value. +Note carefully the new regulation concerning camp and cooking fires (only in properly constructed fire places, etc.)\\ 
-We should - +Support fully the National Park Patrols,\\ 
-Note carefully the new regulation concerning camp and cooking fires (only in properly constructed fire places, etc.) +Talk about the bushfire danger when and wherever possible,\\ 
-Support fully the National Park Patrols, +Obtain practical first hand experience in fire fighting.\\ 
-Talk about the bushfire danger when and wherever possible, + 
-Obtain practical first hand experience in fire fighting. +**THE BBQ**\\   
-THE - BC/. We had hoped to be able to report more fully on the doings +We had hoped to be able to report more fully on the doings at the barbecue held at Wal Roots' home on December 12th. As one who didn't come, didn't feed and has only second-hand accounts to go on, we can yet say that it was successful in the extreme. The lamb was well cooked, and delivered hot to the plates, and the affair paid its wayHandclaps to the organisers and cooks. We hope to give a fuller story next month when our reporter's efforts are not bailed up by Christmas mails and the like.
- 7TE-5"-garbecue held at Wal Roots' home on December 12th. As one who didn'tcome, didn't feed and has only second-hand accounts to go on, we can yet say that it was successful in the extreme. The lamb Was well+
-cooked, and delivered hot to the plates, and -. the affair paid its +
-+
-way Handclaps to the organisers and cooks. We hope to give a fuller story next month when our reporter's efforts are not bailed up by Christmas mails and the like.+
      
-KEEPING FINGERS CROSSED, and hoping we won't have to report too many Burnt-Out Areas this summer. Phil Mason reports, for the record, a burnt patch on the ridge up to Carlon's Head. +**KEEPING FINGERS CROSSED**, and hoping we won't have to report too many Burnt-Out Areas this summer. Phil Mason reports, for the record, a burnt patch on the ridge up to Carlon's Head. Let's know if you note any burnt places which may affect walkers.
-Let's know if you note any burnt places whidh may affect walkers.+
  
  
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